Ark
join:2002-06-08
Hudsonville, MI
 ·AT&T Midwest
| Good luck
Good luck |
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dervari
join:2000-01-17
Atlanta, GA
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1 edit | For the small percentage of people that use Mozilla, great. But the vast majority of corporate users are standardized on Outlook with an Exchange server.
Also, some of these user iframes, which are harder to defeat than simple images. |
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TheGiant
Next Year Is Here.
join:2001-03-28
Knoxville, TN
| reply to Ark
Upgrade time
This alone is good enough reason to upgrade. Exchange 2003 here I come. Besides this NT domain is a nightmare..
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Ark
join:2002-06-08
Hudsonville, MI | reply to dervari
Re: Good luck
Oh well. I'm protected from email bugs, as I want to be. What do I care if corporate users still want to use outlook and be trackable? Their choice. |
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nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
Premium
join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA
 ·Cox HSI
·Speakeasy
| reply to dervari
said by dervari  :
For the small percentage of people that use Mozilla, great. But the vast majority of corporate users are standardized on Outlook with an Exchange server.
Also, some of these user iframes, which are harder to defeat than simple images.
That's why it's good to install an HTML sanitizer module on your SMTP gateways. Strips out or neuters such tags without the end user having to change anything in their client.
-tom
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GlobalMind
Domino Dude, POWER Systems Guy
Premium
join:2001-10-29
Hollywood, FL
| reply to dervari
Well, "vast majority" may be a bit too generous. The numbers of Exchange users vs Lotus Notes/Domino users is roughly equal with one or the other stepping ahead depending on the day/hour. I think recently MS's claimed number was finally higher...but not so much that they completely blow away the rest of the market.
And before Exchange 5.5 or 2k users try to go through the pain of a 2003 upgrade...they should seriously look at ND 6.5.
K.
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DrTCP
Yours truly
Premium,ExMod 1999-04
join:1999-11-09
Round Rock, TX
| reply to dervari
said by dervari :
For the small percentage of people that use Mozilla, great. But the vast majority of corporate users are standardized on Outlook with an Exchange server.
Also, some of these user iframes, which are harder to defeat than simple images.
Pegasus Mail also makes no internet connections to fetch online linked images unless the user instructs so. It is free as well.
http://www.pmail.com |
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wbhigdon
join:2003-10-29
Bessemer, AL
| reply to dervari
said by dervari :
For the small percentage of people that use Mozilla, great. But the vast majority of corporate users are standardized on Outlook with an Exchange server.
Also, some of these user iframes, which are harder to defeat than simple images.
Outlook 2003 has this behaivor by default.... |
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DSLrgm
Premium,MVM
join:2002-08-22
Oak Park, MI
| reply to TheGiant
Re: Upgrade time
said by TheGiant :
This alone is good enough reason to upgrade. Exchange 2003 here I come. Besides this NT domain is a nightmare..
Go to Samba 3.0 instead! |
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LordMalak
join:2003-07-02
Brazil
| reply to Ark
Re: Good luck
said by Ark :
Oh well. I'm protected from email bugs, as I want to be. What do I care if corporate users still want to use outlook and be trackable? Their choice.
That was an ignorant thing to say. Most employees have no say so on the software they use at work. Sometimes, not even system admins have that luxury due to the company's contractual obligations with the software provider (MS, in the case).
Depending on employees' access level, they may not even be able to turn off HTML in Outlook. |
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Nerdtalker
Working Hard, Or Hardly Working?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-02-18
Tucson, AZ
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2 edits | reply to Ark
Outlook has the same thing, which I have enabled:
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Joe Schmoew
@208.44.x.x
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OK well, fine. But SOMEONE chose to use the crappy MS stuff. SO again, their choice - just a different they than you're thinking.
And I agree, screw those people. They have done nothing for the internet or contributed to eliminating the problems with it ever since Microsoft got on board, so screw them. Let them get all the virii, web bugs, spyware, and patches they can stand from Gates & Co.
I don't use Outlook and wouldn't use it if you paid me. Just look at the almost daily reports of new bugs or security holes in it, look how they tried to make it part of the OS (oh, yeah - THAT's a good idea...). And then look how they've forced it down people's throats with forcing it's inclusion in the OS by the OEM's (you could read about it in their anti-trust trial) and as you say, negotiating contracts that FORCE the use of CRAP in corporate networks.
Still, someone in those corporations is making a choice. A bad choice for everyone on the net.
Screw them and whatever happens to them. |
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FLECOM
Bay Networks Freak
Premium
join:2003-03-03
Miami, FL | reply to dervari
my outlook is set to not display images or any advanced html...
no problems 
if i wanted to be uber paranoid you can just set it to text only or whatnot |
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LrdVader
Premium
join:2003-12-18
San Diego, CA
| reply to Ark
said by Ark :
Oh well. I'm protected from email bugs, as I want to be. What do I care if corporate users still want to use outlook and be trackable? Their choice.
Thunderbird apparently still gets tracked, even with those settings:
»www.candygenius.com/track_the_tracker |
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RayW
Premium
join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
clubs:
·XMission
| reply to DrTCP
said by DrTCP :
Pegasus Mail also makes no internet connections to fetch online linked images unless the user instructs so. It is free as well.
»www.pmail.com
Amen! Good product, but needs more smarts to use correctly.
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nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
Premium
join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA
·Cox HSI
·Speakeasy
| reply to LrdVader
said by LrdVader :
said by Ark :
Oh well. I'm protected from email bugs, as I want to be. What do I care if corporate users still want to use outlook and be trackable? Their choice.
Thunderbird apparently still gets tracked, even with those settings:
»www.candygenius.com/track_the_tracker
Only if you go in an enable javascript, but why would you do that??
-tom
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"That's only 2 types of people, moron" |
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candygenius
@grandenetworks.ne
| Even with JavaScript disabled and loading of remote images disabled, some of the services still sent the receipt back when I tested it in Thunderbird. All I can say is, test them yourself. Horde was the only reader that blocked them all 100% of the time. |
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