paulhaskew
Unoffical Dominos Spokesman
join:2002-01-10
Vancouver, WA
clubs: | question
why can't wireless connections for home internet use be as secure as cell phones? |
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Minister
join:2002-01-02
Fleeting | Who says cellphones are secure? |
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paulhaskew
Unoffical Dominos Spokesman
join:2002-01-10
Vancouver, WA
clubs: | reply to paulhaskew
well more secure than my wireless connection at home... |
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garagerock
Premium
join:2002-06-14
Louisville, KY
| quote:
why can't wireless connections for home internet use be as secure as cell phones?
just as soon as baby monitors don't pick up cell calls...or pringle cans don't spot unsecured hotspots.
cell phones are as about secure as walkie talkies are. as in, they ain't. |
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Doctor Olds
I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me.
Premium,VIP
join:2001-04-19
1970 442 W30
clubs:
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said by paulhaskew  :
why can't wireless connections for home internet use be as secure as cell phones?
Huh? I hear all cell phones on my pre-ban scanner.  Nothing secure there. Then there are the fadeovers/harmonics that let the cell phone be heard in non-banned frequencies (I don't recall the actual term) and there are other ways to hear them. About as secure as a pair of $5.00 dollar walkie-talkies when they are sold by the tractor load preset at one channel for everyone to hear for miles around.  |
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jansson_mark
Markus Jansson
Premium
join:2001-08-05
Finland
1 edit | reply to Minister
said by Minister :
Who says cellphones are secure?
To say it short, only cell phones that are safe are the ones that use ONLY (refuse ALL other!) COMP-128-2 or COMP-128-3 and A5/3. If they use any other stuff in any way, they are insecure and can be eavesdropped pretty easily. Unfortunally most cell phone providers use COMP-128-1 and A5/1 and allow even more insecure algos to be used.
For example, in Finland, only Elisa »www.elisa.fi uses that secure combination, all other providers have insecure cell phone networks. 
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Use HushTools or GnuPG/PGP to encrypt any email before sending it to me to protect our privacy. |
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sabersaw
Premium
join:2001-08-21
Dayton, OH
2 edits | reply to Doctor Olds
said by Doctor Olds :
Huh? I hear all cell phones on my pre-ban scanner. Nothing secure there. Then there are the fadeovers/harmonics that let the cell phone be heard in non-banned frequencies (I don't recall the actual term) and there are other ways to hear them.
those analog cell phones in the 800 mhz band are almost extent in many parts of the country... I think it would take a lot of radio and knowledge to listen to cdma or tdma without knowing someone on the inside. analog signals.. piece of cake. search 862-890 mhz fm narrow band. |
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