hottboiinnc
Kyle
join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH
 ·buckeye cable
| reply to Nerdtalker
Re: Does it really matter?
I use 2Wire HomePortal/Office Portal products and they come by default secured. Each Portal has a different KeyCode that has be to used to access the Wireless Network. The only way to know the key is to actually look at the portal's bottom and get it. After you can login to it you can change it but htats it.
Kyle |
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AquaBlaze
Premium
join:2004-02-02
Encino, CA
| Granted, yes, the HomePortals have a plus going for them that they have encryption enabled by default. The bad thing is, that unlike any other router/AP, they don't offer WPA support...only the weak 64/128 WEP encryption.
This will keep people out of just "stumbling" into your network...but as I've read security reports, it won't keep anyone out who REALLY wants into your network. At least WPA makes it hard on those kinds of folks to break in. |
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Nerdtalker
Working Hard, Or Hardly Working?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-02-18
Tucson, AZ
clubs:
·Comcast
| said by AquaBlaze  :
This will keep people out of just "stumbling" into your network...but as I've read security reports, it won't keep anyone out who REALLY wants into your network. At least WPA makes it hard on those kinds of folks to break in.
I agree, we all know that true security is more of an oxymoron than a possible practice, but with WIFI, being secure only really necessitates being more secure than your neighbors who are wide open.
I mean, If I really wanted to wardrive a house (and use the connection), I'd just keep driving and find a house that is wide open, rather than try to spend time busting WEP encryption...
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Touch a thistle timidly, and it pricks you; grasp it boldly, and its spines crumble. -William S. Halsey |
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hottboiinnc
Kyle
join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH
·buckeye cable
| True.
the company I used to work for had part of an WISP and you could sit out side our offices or within the range of our equipment and access our company files and our printers. Also after they stopped the service the Wireless Network in the office was available like 2 blocks down the street just using Microsoft Networking Hub. Not one person attempted to access our network or anything. Yes I know that cause i checked the Admin Page all the time. All of the people that came into our office for something knew were were using wireless cause I would roam around the office with my laptop and work. I'd even sit out side at a table and work. So if someone wants to hack bad enough they would.
But its just more sense to look for one wide open than one secured to break. |
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AquaBlaze
Premium
join:2004-02-02
Encino, CA
| reply to Nerdtalker
"I mean, If I really wanted to wardrive a house (and use the connection), I'd just keep driving and find a house that is wide open, rather than try to spend time busting WEP encryption..."
Yea, but if you're specifically looking to bust into a specific network (ie. sabotage on a competing business) WEP isn't going to cut it. WPA is a whole lot more secure, but I'm sure given enough time...folks can get in through that. (thus why you don't see SMART networks w/ confidential information running wireless these days)
I'm all for 801.11i, if they can somehow guarantee a security level equivolent to that of a wired network...that way all businesses can partake of a wireless network without shattin' a brick over security. |
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Nerdtalker
Working Hard, Or Hardly Working?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-02-18
Tucson, AZ
clubs:
·Comcast
| said by AquaBlaze :
Yea, but if you're specifically looking to bust into a specific network (ie. sabotage on a competing business) WEP isn't going to cut it. WPA is a whole lot more secure, but I'm sure given enough time...folks can get in through that.
I'm not sure how penetrable WPA is, but I agree with what you said about WEP, I believe you have to capture around 5 million packets (so sit around for a while)...
Even just AirSnort can find the key for you if you are determined...
In all my travels, I've seen only 27 AP's with encryption, WEP at that, I've seen 0 with WPA... Sad...
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Touch a thistle timidly, and it pricks you; grasp it boldly, and its spines crumble. -William S. Halsey |
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AmeritecTech
Change we can believe in, 1922
Premium
join:2002-09-06
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| reply to hottboiinnc
said by hottboiinnc :
The only way to know the key is to actually look at the portal's bottom and get it.
Or to crack it, which is rather easy. |
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