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PhoenixDown
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Do Not Call works?

I mustve missed that as I still get plagued by telemarketers. =(
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DHRacer
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I was getting so much telelmarketing, I felt I could loose nothing more by trying it.

Well, it works. I haven't recieved any telemarketing calls in a while, they just petered out.

However, I would NEVER sign up for a do-not-spam registry, since there is no way to secure that list.
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KAD Imaging
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reply to PhoenixDown
LOL! I've seen at 95% decrease since signing up. I have gotten automated messages left on my cell but I don't know what that's about.

With Yahoo! all spam goes to the Bulk Folder so I only browse it to "train" it not to kill my good emails. The bad stuff never reaches my Inbox.

Hotmail on the other hand receives little real mail because the spam fills it up and blocks the legit mail. Even funnier is that my Bellsouth account gets 5-10 spam messages every few days despite my never, ever using it for a single thing!! I use my webmail exclusively since I switch ISP's frequently and can't be bothered tracking down who's got what email. Spam suxors!

If this doesn't come to pass, I guess I will kill all non-Yahoo! accounts. lol.
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pnh102
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reply to PhoenixDown
said by PhoenixDown See Profile:
I mustve missed that as I still get plagued by telemarketers. =(
If that's the case, go and report them to the FTC using the links on the »www.donotcall.gov website. Its really the only way the FTC can enforce this law and telemarketers won't get the message that breaking the law doesn't pay unless violations are reported.

I've signed up for the DNC list, and I have only had one telemarketer bother me since then. That was a few months ago. I posted 3 violations to the FTC site and they have not bothered me since. Now I am not sure if those postings resulted in any action being taken, but it is always worth a shot.
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Karl Bode
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I only really noticed how effective it was after I moved and got a new number. I'm being bombarded with calls at my new number while I wait for it to make its way through the system.....probably get at least eight or nine calls a day....


pnh102
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said by Karl Bode See Profile:
I'm being bombarded with calls at my new number while I wait for it to make its way through the system.....probably get at least eight or nine calls a day....
I'm wondering if that's due more to your phone company selling your number as soon as you set it up, or telemarketers putting every number that isn't on the DNC into some kind of war-dialer.
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Karl Bode
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Could be Time Warner Cable, Verizon, DirecTV, or NY State Electric and Gas. Or all of them....


fireflier
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 reply to PhoenixDown
Heck yeah it works!

Oh yeah, it works. KY started a statewide DNC list back around 2002 if I remember correctly. I got on that as soon as it was available and it made a big difference.

Only issues I have now are the exempt calls for "Political", "Charity", and "Existing Business Relationship". With EBR, even if you do business with them, you can (according to FTC) ask to be placed on their no call list. Had to do that recently with a Bellsouth contracted call center after they bugged me for 2 weeks to sign up for DSL. Also be sure to read the small text in mail flyers proporting to give you something free--some companies are sending those out to establish an EBR (it's all in the fine print) so they can start calling you.

Not sure what to do about the charity and political calls other than to ask that you be put on their no call list, but I don't know what rules apply in that regard. I just tell them I don't do business over the phone unless I initiated the call. If they persist, I hang up.
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whoamIoramI

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reply to PhoenixDown
Re: Do Not Call works?

Thats weird...bec the calls to my home from tele-marktrs is almost non-exsistent now. I used to get 20 missed calls while at work all from unknown #'s

But I do here people of still getting them...weird


TamaraB
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Re: Heck yeah it works!

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Only issues I have now are the exempt calls for "Political", "Charity", and "Existing Business Relationship".

Had the same problem, asked Verizon to put this special service on my POTS line, no caller-id, and they get a message stating they must release their ANI. Foils all the bot-callers! Not a SINGLE spam call in the past 3 months!

Bob
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pnh102
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Re: Do Not Call works?

said by Karl Bode See Profile:
Could be Time Warner Cable, Verizon, DirecTV, or NY State Electric and Gas. Or all of them....

Heck I'd report them anyway. If you have the phone number from which they are calling you, then you can use »google.com or »anywho.com to do a reverse lookup and get the name of the calling company. You may not even need the name of the company either, only the number should suffice. Logically speaking, the ban on calling you should go into effect legally the second you signed up for the DNC. If the ban on calling you took effect only when the telemarketers updated their lists, then any telemarketer could just say "uh, we didn't update our list" and continue to illegally call people.
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Karl Bode
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I thought there was some legal window the companies had before they had to get the update list, and adhere to it? Like quarterly?


fireflier
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Re: Heck yeah it works!

If I'm understanding you right, I'm already using that service (and Bellsouth rapes me every month for something that apparently costs them pennies, but that's another topic).

It's Caller ID with anonymous caller reject. Anyone suppressing their ID gets a message that "this number does not accept anonymous calls". It knows if someone is intentionally suppressing their ID vs. someone who's calling from a CID incompatible system (like from England).

Problem is, the charities and political dweebs all have caller ID numbers, hence they're not anonymous and they get through. If Bellsouth had a service where you could push *888 and blow up the caller's phone, I'd pay for that!
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TamaraB
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said by fireflier See Profile:

Problem is, the charities and political dweebs all have caller ID numbers, hence they're not anonymous and they get through. If Bellsouth had a service where you could push *888 and blow up the caller's phone, I'd pay for that!

I had a radioshack phone once, which allowed you to record several messages, and assign ANI numbers to a message. I could then have a message for mom, and another one for spam calls, and another one for wife... That phone is long dead; wonder if there is a similar one on the market today?

Bob
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fireflier
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Haven't seen any standalone phones like that, but I've seen a lot of software that can do that with your PC

»www.popularshareware.com/ThePhon···732.html

This was just the first one that popped up in a search.

Of course, I imagine the radio shack phone was a little more affordable than purchasing a PC to do this. . .
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