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DaMaGeINC
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Stupid

Gmail is another stupid product of the internet. 1gig of email. What a waste of space. 1 email msg is like 2k, from a friend. Hi, bye, write back, is about all. After you read that, you delete it and move on. So whats the point of 1gig?
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Re: Stupid

said by DaMaGeINC See Profile:
Gmail is another stupid product of the internet. 1gig of email. What a waste of space. 1 email msg is like 2k, from a friend. Hi, bye, write back, is about all. After you read that, you delete it and move on. So whats the point of 1gig?

Yeah, 1 email msg is like 2k. However, email messages with attachments can be over 10 megabytes.

I'm sure people will utilize the space they were given in gmail to send attachments back and forth.

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Re: Stupid

FYI from GMail's help page (which you won't be able to see if you don't have a GMail account:

said by GMail Help and FAQ's:

What's the maximum message size limit?

Answer:
You can send and receive messages up to 10 megabytes (MB) total. Any message that exceeds this limit will not be delivered to your inbox and will be returned to the sender. If you attempt to send an email that exceeds this limit, you will get an error message and your email will not be sent.

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said by DaMaGeINC See Profile:
Gmail is another stupid product of the internet. 1gig of email. What a waste of space. 1 email msg is like 2k, from a friend. Hi, bye, write back, is about all. After you read that, you delete it and move on. So whats the point of 1gig?
Some people transfer many large files via e-mail, and like to keep copies of everything. I do this at work so when someone calls up and complains, I can go back 2 months and verify who said what and when about which file.

I have over a gig of stored e-mails on my work PC.
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DaMaGeINC
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Re: Stupid

I dont get it, thier are so MANY better ways to transfer files. Email is the slowest in my book, so why use it?

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Re: Stupid

said by DaMaGeINC See Profile:
I dont get it, thier are so MANY better ways to transfer files. Email is the slowest in my book, so why use it?
We offer web and FTP uploads/downloads, and we accept zip disks and CD-R, but for most idiots clients, it's simpler to attach it to an e-mail, so that's what they do. And I end up with many megs in my inbox. Shrug.
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Because most Internet inhabitants are lazy bastards. Durr hurr hurr, let's send this screen saver I found on some back-water website to all members of the company! Hurr hurr!


Reminds me of an employee at Best Internet shortly before my employment there. Apparently he came across some Win32 application called "BRAINTEST.EXE", and after playing with it, decided it would be intelligent to send it as an attachment to all the members of the company. If I remember correctly, the executable was about 3MBytes.

The end result is that he managed to crash the internal SMTP server intended for employee mail -- the disks filled, and (at the time) sendmail wasn't very nice about handling out-of-disk errors.

After the SAs figured out what the hell was going on and proceeded to empty out the queue, only one employee responded to the Email. All he said was:

"Looks like someone failed the test..."

There's a reason all SMTP servers let administrators configure what the maximum permitted MIME attachment size is, you know. And there's a reason administrators are continually DECREASING that maximum.


Like you, I too think Gmail is worthless. It's going to become spammer central, especially with disk space like that. Think of all the space spammers will have for bouncebacks. That's all spammers use Hotmail for, by the way. It's all automated...

Google's just trying to start a fight with Microsoft over services like Hotmail. I don't deny Google could do a better job (and I've WORKED at Hotmail!), but in lieu of all of Google's recent TOS changes and how anti-privacy they've become, I can safely say I really want nothing to do with Gmail.
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Re: Stupid

said by koitsu See Profile:
After the SAs figured out what the hell was going on and proceeded to empty out the queue, only one employee responded to the Email. All he said was:

"Looks like someone failed the test..."

There's a reason all SMTP servers let administrators configure what the maximum permitted MIME attachment size is, you know. And there's a reason administrators are continually DECREASING that maximum.


Liek you said thats the fault of the administration. You are supposed to set those limits for a reason. Also number of recipents etc.etc.
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said by DaMaGeINC See Profile:
I dont get it, thier are so MANY better ways to transfer files. Email is the slowest in my book, so why use it?

the casual user may not know other ways of transferring files (i.e. the n00b friend i have who likes to send huge files via email, this would be perfect for him)

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said by DaMaGeINC "I dont get it, thier are so MANY better ways to transfer files. Email is the slowest in my book, so why use it?"

You obviously have NO experience in a corporate environment.

So just what exactly is one of your many better ways to transfer word, ppt, pdf's and such to mailing lists or clients??

LoL or should I just laugh your foolish statement out of here. lolololololololololoolololololololololololoololololololololololololol

DaMaGeINC
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Re: Stupid

Im not talking about little pictures and word documents. obviously email would be the best way to transfer small files. Im talking about 5-10Mb files. So please take your negativity somewhere else.

2kmaro
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Rather a repetitive answer, but I've dealt with many clients who simply were not FTP saavy, or else did not have access to FTP (corporate restrictions), or even to the WWW from within a corporate firewall. But I still needed to exchange large (4-8 MB) files with them. Email attachment was pretty much the only way. My Cox email system has a 5 MB limit on attachment size (actually more like 4.5MB) and that even pushed me into getting my own site with pretty much unlimited email size restrictions. But that overcame the 4.5MB limit but at a $$ cost. I'd have loved to have had this service for free back then.

But the point is almost moot for me now, since Cox now requires that ALL outgoing email go thru their server, once again nullifying alternate ability to send anything larger than a 4.5MB file. :(
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Re: Stupid

said by 2kmaro See Profile:
But the point is almost moot for me now, since Cox now requires that ALL outgoing email go thru their server, once again nullifying alternate ability to send anything larger than a 4.5MB file. :(

Don't you have Webmail with your webhost? You can use webmail to send those large attachments. If you also support IMAP, you can prepare the mail on your PC, put draft on IMAP folder on your webhost and just logon and send from your webhost. Some webhosts are now starting to offer altertate port for mail for those ISPs/corportations that block outgoing port 25. You may want to look into that as well.

DaMaGeINC
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Re: Stupid

Well, I HAVE YOU ALL BEAT ON SECURITY. NO EMAIL IS THE BEST SECURITY. AMUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
LrdVader
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Re: Stupid

said by DaMaGeINC See Profile:
Well, I HAVE YOU ALL BEAT ON SECURITY. NO EMAIL IS THE BEST SECURITY. AMUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Yeah, well, I have the most hacker-proof firewall in the world! It's called a pair of wire cutters!

DaMaGeINC
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Re: Stupid

OZ NOS, WELL. I HAVE L33T 56K MODEM, I AM AWSOME

insomx
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Give me your IP addreess and we will find out how secure you are

pcscdma
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Re: Stupid

192.168.1.100

Sarah
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Re: Stupid

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192.168.1.100
OMG... you're posting from my wireless mp3 server! How the heck did you manage that?!


pcscdma
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Re: Stupid

You better not post from my XBOX - 192.168.1.101

Sarah
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Re: Stupid

I'm not posting from it, but I'm running an FTP server on it.

insomx
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Re: Stupid

Thoose are internal IP addresses, lol!

pcscdma
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said by DaMaGeINC See Profile:
Gmail is another stupid product of the internet. 1gig of email. What a waste of space.
It's not the 1gig that is the primary feature of GMail - it's how they've designed the mail threads to appear as "conversations". Essentially, the 1GB is just to augment the ability to use the GMail box as a life recorder - essentially a lifetime storage of all your Internet correspondence.
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LrdVader
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Re: Stupid

said by quanta See Profile:
Essentially, the 1GB is just to augment the ability to use the GMail box as a life recorder - essentially a lifetime storage of all your Internet correspondence.

Unfortunately, that means Google is recording your life. Not a good thing in my book.

DaMaGeINC
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Re: Stupid

I guess this is for some people and not others.

insomx
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Re: Stupid

Ever think this Aaron guy could be just doing this to collect e-mail addresses to send OUT spam? Im not sending anything to contribute!
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LrdVader
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Re: Stupid

said by insomx See Profile:
Ever think this Aaron guy could be just doing this to collect e-mail addresses to send OUT spam? Im not sending anything to contribute!

I think the idea is to get people to spread the address around so it picks up actual spam, rather than sending it junk themselves.

insomx
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Re: Stupid

Well DOH!!! I know he is trying to get SPAM by spreading it to test Gmail's spam blocker. What I meant was that people like you or I could just send him a mail (many people have) with our personal address and he could collect it and sell it to SPAM companies.
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said by LrdVader See Profile:
Unfortunately, that means Google is recording your life. Not a good thing in my book.

As if RoadRunner doesn't already keep a copy of everything that you receive or send for compliance with the USA PATRIOT Act.

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LrdVader
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Re: Stupid

said by pcscdma See Profile:

As if RoadRunner doesn't already keep a copy of everything that you receive or send for compliance with the USA PATRIOT Act.


No, I really don't think RoadRunner takes the time to crack the 128 bit encryption I use when communicating with my email service so that they can log it.

pcscdma
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Re: Stupid

I use ROT13 encryption to secure my emails. Double-ROT13 is the future though.
LrdVader
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Re: Stupid

said by pcscdma See Profile:
I use ROT13 encryption to secure my emails. Double-ROT13 is the future though.

LOL!

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said by DaMaGeINC See Profile:
Gmail is another stupid product of the internet. 1gig of email. What a waste of space. 1 email msg is like 2k, from a friend. Hi, bye, write back, is about all. After you read that, you delete it and move on. So whats the point of 1gig?

With the HTML mail, the simplest one or two line mail is now about 4-5KB of storage. Still, the attachments is what takes most of your mailbox.

Oh, some of us want to keep all our correspondence.
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