doppler
join:2003-03-31
Blue Point, NY | Sure sound like the problems with verizon dsl
Are pale in comparison.
Korea is better wired than anywhere in America. |
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72276539
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Atlanta, GA
| said by doppler  :
Are pale in comparison.
Korea is better wired than anywhere in America.
Then move to Korea.
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Smitedogg
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| said by 72276539 :
said by doppler :
Are pale in comparison.
Korea is better wired than anywhere in America.
Then move to Korea.
Yeah, how dare someone point out that another country is better than ours at something!
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72276539
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Atlanta, GA
| said by Smitedogg :
said by 72276539 :
said by doppler :
Are pale in comparison.
Korea is better wired than anywhere in America.
Then move to Korea.
Yeah, how dare someone point out that another country is better than ours at something!
Considering the country is radically different then ours, government paid for much of the deployment and the fact it is incredibly smaller then our country would make this a case of comparing apples to oranges.
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72276539
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Atlanta, GA
| reply to doppler
If broadband is so important that you have to state XXXXX is more wired then American then obviously its very important so movie to a broadband haven would be a good thing. Why should I pay for him to move? Im not the one stating Korea is better now am I?
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doppler
join:2003-03-31
Blue Point, NY
1 edit | You don't get the point
The reason Korea is so well wired is the fact they
care more about it than any bell or isp system
in the United States.
In 1990 all the baby bells promised to there local
governments. F.T.T.H. That's fiber to the home. The
percentage of wired homes was PROMISED to be 90% in
five years. It was hailed as the 5 year plan.
Well I am still waiting, it's 9 years over do. Did I
mention the bells wanted tax abatements to offset the
costs of FTTH. They got it. But nobody got there FTTH.
They only wired a small part. Just to show they were doing
something. Just recently the users of PA got screwed
by verizon. Verizon promised FTTH in PA. They got big
dollars to install it. And just this year. Verizon
said sorry it won't happen. Did everybody get rebates
for the extra payout to Verizon. Highly unlikely verizon
will be paying out ANYTHING. Except lately 40 Million fine
for level of service failure. I like that $5 rebate every
year. (fine wise). I don't like the shoddy service.
BTW, every time it rains, someone on the block gets repair
work done. My phone goes out, or bad humming. It's been
13 times in the last 18 months. They won't commit to cable
replacement. Why would they commit to FTTH?
Yea, I compared Korea with anywhere in the US. Think about
it. Korea is better wired than the US. In fact there are
many other countries better wired. The US is on the bottom
of the list. With the technology available in the US. I
think we should be on the top of the list not on the bottom.
As long as North Korea exists I would never think of going
to south Korea. WW-III, if it starts anywhere it's going
to be there.
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72276539
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join:2001-01-19
Atlanta, GA | reply to doppler
Re: Sure sound like the problems with verizon dsl
ISP's have to have an ROI, a government doesn't. |
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72276539
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Atlanta, GA
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Ok, is everything you have made in USA? No? How dare you use something from another country! Go live in that country and get out from USA! (to Anubis)
LMAO, I am not bitching about any of the products I have you twit. There is a differance here, and since its flying over your head guess you will just not get it.
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72276539
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Atlanta, GA
| No thanks, I am not moving from this soceity. See, I think America is great. I don't look at one issue and go OH MY GOD AMERICA SUCKS! I don't look at Korea and go OH MY GOD THEY GOT MORE BROADBAND THEN WE DO OH THE HUMANITY! I shrug my shoulders and look at how much happier I am being an American living in America then an American living in Korea... with broadband. Sure not everything is perfect but I also look at why Korea has a hell of a lot higher broadband adaption rate. I look at the reasons, not just the headlines. If something is so important to you you should reach out and go for it right? Well if broadband is so brutally important then by all means go and get it! Whether it be this country, or another.
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pnh102
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Mount Airy, MD
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| reply to doppler
Re: You don't get the point
said by doppler :
BTW, every time it rains, someone on the block gets repair work done. My phone goes out, or bad humming. It's been 13 times in the last 18 months.
Just as an aside, why would you continue to pay for such shoddy service? Get your number ported to a cell phone and be done with it.
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72276539
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Atlanta, GA
| Re: Sure sound like the problems with verizon dsl
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No, instead of telling people to move out to get better product why don't you make it your business to get that better product in states!
SURE! I will do that, right after you do! In fact since broadband in the US is so bad and you want everyone else to spend their money to get everyone wired why not start it off right by donating your money to the worthy cause?
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doppler
join:2003-03-31
Blue Point, NY
| reply to pnh102
Re: You don't get the point
said by pnh102 :
said by doppler :
BTW, every time it rains, someone on the block gets repair work done. My phone goes out, or bad humming. It's been 13 times in the last 18 months.
Just as an aside, why would you continue to pay for such shoddy service? Get your number ported to a cell phone and be done with it.
Your being from PA, I think your worst off than my service.
I would be hounding my senators about the nice freebie
verizon got. As for my problems. I can't afford the
extra cellphone costs. And being a amateur radio
enthusiast I don't trust the landline being available.
Imagine this: Flight 800 went down not far from my home.
The Fire chief was smashing his cellphone on the hood of
the response car. Why?? Because he could not get a
clear channel. Cellphone are the first things to
go when things get bad. Even during the blackout of 2003.
Landline phones where up, cell sites were down.
But this is de tracking from the topic. For long Island and
NYC/NJ/CT areas black holes are rare. And the fact
everywhere else is screwed up. I blame the ISP's and baby
bells.
Parting thought. I know for a fact NYC has over capacity
of fiber optics. But they have the greatest cost to operate
even a basic T-1. Every time they ran 10 fiber lines from
point A to B. They didn't run just the ten they ran 100.
All that extra capacity is laying dormant. Verizon charges
$1200 a month for a full T-1. It really should be costing
$120 a month. Profit drives everything. That's the way it
works. Until the bells get hit with big fines for not
following though on promises. Nothing will change. |
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72276539
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Atlanta, GA
| reply to doppler
Re: Sure sound like the problems with verizon dsl
Could it be the land cost in NYC is so god damned high along with the taxes they have to recoup the money somehow? Could it be that its not the cost to run the fiber that is incredibly prohibitive, its the cost of maintaining wiring centers, co-location facilities and the manpower necessary to make things work in a high priced area? Naw, its none of that. Its all corporate greed, god forbid a publicly held for profit company dare try to make a profit! OH THE HUMANITY!
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72276539
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Atlanta, GA
| said by :
said by 72276539 :
said by :
No, instead of telling people to move out to get better product why don't you make it your business to get that better product in states!
SURE! I will do that, right after you do! In fact since broadband in the US is so bad and you want everyone else to spend their money to get everyone wired why not start it off right by donating your money to the worthy cause?
What are you talking about, our broadband improving everyday because people demand better broadband. If you not going to do shit and sit on your ass telling people to move out if they don't like something you waste of space. If everyone were thinking like you America would not grow and improve at all. Go get a clue 
Now wait a minute, I just gave you a suggestion on how YOU could help out. Don't turn your back! Question is, what are YOU doing to help the situation?
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72276539
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Atlanta, GA
| said by :
said by 72276539 :
Could it be the land cost in NYC is so god damned high along with the taxes they have to recoup the money somehow? Could it be that its not the cost to run the fiber that is incredibly prohibitive, its the cost of maintaining wiring centers, co-location facilities and the manpower necessary to make things work in a high priced area? Naw, its none of that. Its all corporate greed, god forbid a publicly held for profit company dare try to make a profit! OH THE HUMANITY!
If you don't like corporate greed move to antarctica!
Holy crap, where did I say I didn't like corporate greed? Damn... what kind of glasses are you wearing?
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72276539
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Atlanta, GA
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Go work out some more at that gym big boy. You waste of my time.
LMAO, nice reply. I am impressed with your l337 debating skillz!
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zoom314
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Yermo, CA
1 edit | reply to 72276539
Most of the Baby Bells don't want to extend DSL into under served areas as They want to be Deregulated further and want to have No Competition outside of Cable and/or Satellite(from what I've read at least), At least Verizon(ex-GTE) is doing something other than doing a Sit-down strike like a spoiled toddler, It's spending Money and putting New Infrastructure in(New Central Offices with No Co-Location), They did in the City of Hesperia where I live. But like any investment, It just takes Time, Money and some Patience.
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pnh102
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Mount Airy, MD
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| reply to doppler
Re: You don't get the point
said by doppler :
Your being from PA, I think your worst off than my service.
I would be hounding my senators about the nice freebie
verizon got.
You do realize that the extra cash Verizon got was through a fee increase. Therefore, people who were not Verizon customers were not paying for service that Verizon never delivered. I, not being a Verizon customer, couldn't care less what Verizon does or does not do. All I do know though, is that if I was a Verizon customer and I was having continual problems with my landline as you describe, would drop them like a hot potato, especially if they refused to fix the problems.
Besides, Verizon is well on its way to putting itself out of business in PA with the way they still charge people for toll calls and other such services. They don't need the state's help for doing that.
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IGGY
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Chatham, IL
| reply to 72276539
Re: Sure sound like the problems with verizon dsl
said by 72276539 :
said by doppler :
Are pale in comparison.
Korea is better wired than anywhere in America.
Then move to Korea.
We shouldn't have to. And when did we stop having pride enough in our country to be the best at everything? High speed rail is in a lot of other countries. Were still using old diesel engines and old track that was built years ago. Heck Las Vegas can't even get there monorail off the ground. Many other countries are using hybrid cars more than we do and have a better selection of available vehicles. Alternative energies are used in other countries more. And since were talking about broadband. The fact is many other countries are way ahead of us in this area. Heck even Canada is now kicking our butt in this field. Providing there customers with same or lower prices - while increasing speeds and doing away with usage caps. This country is becoming more and more a follower instead of leader. People need to start having pride like our forefathers did. We need to realize we need to be the first and best with new technologies and ways of living. Not playing catch up.
The original poster merely pointed out a fact. You merely jumped there case like they weren't being patriotic. Being patriotic is expecting your country to be the best and wanting it to be the best. Maybe if more people realized were lagging behind and got off there backsides and did something about it. We could reverse this trend. But companies and politicians would rather only give it lip services. Like certain types of people standing on a street corner.
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pnh102
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| reply to 72276539
said by 72276539 :
Now wait a minute, I just gave you a suggestion on how YOU could help out. Don't turn your back! Question is, what are YOU doing to help the situation?
You're right... if broadband is that critical to you and you can't move (even though it begs the question as to why someone would willingly move to place with no broadband if they need it that badly), you can always get together with your broadband deprived neighbors and split the cost of a T1 (among other things). Its not that big a deal.
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