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ABitCrazy

join:2003-07-14
Elkridge, MD
·Verizon FIOS

reply to ropeguru
Re: But...

If they roll out true VoIP, I would expect this would be done in conjunction with an implementation of DOCSIS 1.1 features. They have already upgraded most systems with DOCSIS 1.1 headend equipment, still running like a DOCSIS 1.0 system. This means they can implement DOCSIS 1.1 service flows specifying QoS for VoIP, completely independent of QoS features supported by subscribers' routers. Consequently, upstream data rates will not necessarily need to be upgraded.


Corvus
Flaming Tards Since 2003
Premium,VIP
join:2003-11-26

reply to ropeguru
hescominsoon See Profile is right, cable companies will sell VoIP as another Internet access on his own QUAM wich is a plus against third party VoIP providers.
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enOehT
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join:2003-05-17
Langhorne, PA
reply to ropeguru
it is still VoIP, the voice data is still going over an IP network, it is just not using your upstream, like a vonage type setup will.


ropeguru
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join:2001-01-25
Bridgeport, WV
clubs:
·VOIPo

reply to ropeguru
Ok, so it realy isn't true VoIP?? We have had the digital phone service here in my area since it was AT&T cable. THe boxes they are using here do not really use an IP address. It is converted to its own style digital signal and sent back to thier equipment. Not a really true implementation of VoIP as it never uses an IP address.

I thought they were implementing using an ATA of the sort like all the other VoIP providers.


imrf
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join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI
·Comcast
·WOW Internet and C..

reply to ropeguru
said by ropeguru See Profile:
Unles they are doing something totally different that I do not know about.
Sure are. They are currently using an Arris modem that does only VoIP. It hooks up exactly like your cable modem does, and usually sits right next to it. It handles VoIP while your modem handles all your data. Both run on different data channels so uploads won't be effected. It's a similar solution to what Cablevision is using. They use the Motorola SBV4200, the data and VoIP data channels are separate while both are contained by the same device.

Kommie

join:2003-05-13
East Haven, CT
reply to ropeguru
Its going to be based like the current Digital Phone. Box outside house connected to current phone lines in house but they will use VOIP switches insted of the current circut based ones.


enOehT
Premium
join:2003-05-17
Langhorne, PA

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reply to hescominsoon
actually it depends what kind of VOIP implementation you are talking about.

without QoS on your router, you will run into this issue.


ropeguru
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join:2001-01-25
Bridgeport, WV
clubs:
reply to hescominsoon
That is only if they are doing digital phone though. For VoIP it would use your internet connection just like Vonage and all the others.

Unles they are doing something totally different that I do not know about.

hescominsoon

join:2003-02-18
Brunswick, MD
reply to ropeguru
actually the VOIP data uses a different channel than the inet upload so the two will not effect each other.
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ropeguru
Premium
join:2001-01-25
Bridgeport, WV
clubs:
If they want to offer VoIP they STILL need to raise the upload speeds. Or anytime someone in the house is talking on the phone and some one surfs they will get choppy voice on the conversion. The current 256k still isn't enough.
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