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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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·Comcast

reply to Steve
Re: How hard could this be?

said by Steve See Profile:
Many other cable providers have managed to block port 25/tcp
There are many legitimate email users who send outbound email via Port 25 using their own hosted email services. If they block Port 25, the spammers will simply use another port.

There are other ways to track and disable infected PCs, Comcast should use those instead.
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Steve
I'm a PC, so shut up
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Yorba Linda, CA

said by pnh102 See Profile:
If they block Port 25, the spammers will simply use another port.
Huh? My mailserver only listens for traffic on port 25/tcp, so if spammer try to use another port, they're not going to get anywhere.

Steve
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Thaler
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reply to pnh102
There are many legitimate email users who send outbound email via Port 25 using their own hosted email services.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought basic Comcast internet service (along with most other DHCP internet services) prohibits server functions on their basic residential internet package.

If Comcast were to shut down port 25, customers with these service packages that are legitimately affected do not have any grounds with which to complain upon. Therefore, they could just shut down this port for these customers, and should people complain about this service being blocked...well, RTFM...er, user agreement, not manual. ^_^


pnh102
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said by Thaler See Profile:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought basic Comcast internet service (along with most other DHCP internet services) prohibits server functions on their basic residential internet package.
You're right, but most of us who do these things are not running servers on Comcast connections. Rather, what we are doing is buying our own domain and hosting, and sending email through that host, using that host's port 25. If Comcast were to block outgoing port 25, then email would not work.

Although most hosting companies do provide an alternative port to send email, it is still not fair that users who keep their machines virus-free should have our connections hobbled because some idiot is too lazy to maintain their system.
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pnh102
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·Comcast

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said by Steve See Profile:
Huh? My mailserver only listens for traffic on port 25/tcp, so if spammer try to use another port, they're not going to get anywhere.
Sorry, I was not clear in my parent post. I was referring to Comcast's blocking outbound port 25 so that I could not reach my domain's hosted email server.
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Keep America Strong! Bush/Cheney 2004


nixen
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reply to pnh102
said by pnh102 See Profile:
said by Thaler See Profile:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought basic Comcast internet service (along with most other DHCP internet services) prohibits server functions on their basic residential internet package.
You're right, but most of us who do these things are not running servers on Comcast connections. Rather, what we are doing is buying our own domain and hosting, and sending email through that host, using that host's port 25. If Comcast were to block outgoing port 25, then email would not work.

Although most hosting companies do provide an alternative port to send email, it is still not fair that users who keep their machines virus-free should have our connections hobbled because some idiot is too lazy to maintain their system.

You're rather contradicting yourself here. First you say that SMTP relay services are available through other ports, then you say that blocking port 25 hobbles your service. Which is it?

I'm sorry, but port 25 is for MTA to MTA SMTP traffic. SMTP submissions via SMTP clients should be done via authenticated connections to the MSA at port 587.

-tom
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Rhobite
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reply to Thaler
We're talking about shutting down outgoing port 25, not ingoing. This has nothing to do with a customer running a server on their Comcast line. Port 25 blocks do affect legitimate users, but given the damage done by spammers I think an ISP is within its rights to block outgoing 25.
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