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sivran
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Re: Dag
Another perspective...
How much of that 8 bucks goes to the studio that produced the movie? Really, how much?
How much of that 8 bucks, or less depending on when and where you see it, goes to overhead--distribution costs, etc.?
Now how much of the price of a download could potentially go to the studio? Studios have websites already, the overhead would be minimal to open up (and maintain) a download section. A lot more, I'd think, as websites don't require truck drivers, ushers, or clerks.
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| said by sivran  :
Another perspective...
How much of that 8 bucks goes to the studio that produced the movie? Really, how much?
How much of that 8 bucks, or less depending on when and where you see it, goes to overhead--distribution costs, etc.?
Most of it. When a movie comes out for the first couple of weeks, 90% goes right back to the distributor or studio. The remaining 10% goes back to the home office of the theater company to pay for bookers (those whose assign movies to theaters) and other "national" costs.
As the weeks go by, it goes to 80/20, then 70/30 and so on until a film becomes a flat rate like $500/week.
The theater itself has to make ALL of its operating costs from the concession stand. Not one cent of the ticket price goes to the theater itself. | |
Cyron
join:2002-09-24
Charlotte, NC | reply to Fountainhead
When the Movie Industry starts selling SVCD's and CAM's of new movies around their release date, I'll start buying them. | |
davebenham
join:2002-01-31
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1 edit | reply to ghostpainter
Copyright laws generally do not give the holder complete control over their creation. Copyright laws were devised to guarantee rights of ownership for publishers. However, in conjunction with the rights of the publisher, the rights of the consumer are also recognized and addressed under a legal doctrine called fair use. Fair use exists as a necessary counter-force to copyright law because many recognize the proliferation of copyrighted ideas and material cannot readily take place in a society if publishers exercise draconian control over their material as you suggest they have a right to do. Fair use attempts to reconcile copyright law and the first amendment right to free speech.
And since you asked me to prove you wrong, here you go. Fair use regularly protects parody as a method of expression. Parodies often use likenesses and other copyrighted material to poke fun and make social statements. Look up Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music sometime, it's a supreme court case that recently dealt with parody. I might also suggest looking up "fair use analysis" sometime.
Incidentally, the fair use doctrine explicitly states economic impact is one of the factors in determining copyright infringement, so you are wrong in your statement that "Economic impact is an irrelevant argument."
What does this mean for the ill-chosen avatars that may infringe on copyrights? That actually isn't an easy question. MTV could choose to take the issue to court, and chances are they would win. But they'd likely win with an out of court settlement or an intimidating phone call from a lawyer to an average joe citizen, not necessarily because they are standing on legally higher ground. | |
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| said by davebenham :
What does this mean for the ill-chosen avatars that may infringe on copyrights? That actually isn't an easy question. MTV could choose to take the issue to court, and chances are they would win. But they'd likely win with an out of court settlement or an intimidating phone call from a lawyer to an average joe citizen, not necessarily because they are standing on legally higher ground.
I hope the remains of Black Isle doesn't try to sue my a$$, I don't have any Canadian money anymore.
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Never mind | |
saltydogmn
join:2002-08-31
Saint Paul, MN
|  reply to Fountainhead
Adapt or die, idiots!
First off, when any industry says it is losing money to piracy, it is lying. What is really happening is that their business model is failing, and they wish to turn back the clock, to keep their position as the sole source of whatever product they are foisting upon the general public.
Instead of "losing money", think of it as every file traded - be it an mp3, a movie, or software program - as a "potential income enhancement event" that will not occur. For example, how many of you know someone who uses Photoshop, yet did not pay for it? Possibly including yourself, perhaps? Do you honestly think it is even worth $699US for it, just so you can join PS threads on Fark?!? Yet, every one of those people is considered a "loss" of $699US for Adobe. I would hazard a guess that less than 1 percent of people would buy it, if that was the only way to get it. No way can they claim the other 99% as a loss, since they would have never paid for it in the first place.
What gets me so angry is how some people can actually stand up for these lowlife scumbags; "...staffing at major labels is down 80%"..." Hey, the staffing at the local home ice delivery company is down 100%! Same for the local buggy whip manufacturer, and the Edison Phonograph plant, and the coal furnace supplier, etc. Guess what? Their time was up, and soon it will be for you, too. Your monopoly is finished, guys and gals. Time to give your customers what they really want; this would preclude suing them (unless you're SCO), since there are a LOT of us that would pay you good money for digital content, as long as we can use it the way WE see fit, NOT YOU. Get with the program, please.
As far as the **AA's go, they still have a chance to move into the 21st century, and actually innovate. They can do so willingly, or we can drag them along, kicking and screaming all the way. If they can't adapt, they will die, and I'll dance on their graves when it happens. (While jamming to the tunes on my Archos Jukebox, and yes, it goes to eleven!) | |
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