veh
join:2003-04-05
San Francisco, CA | reply to rklein
Re: Scary reality ...
I don't. |
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LrdVader
Premium
join:2003-12-18
San Diego, CA
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said by linicx  :
If ISPs listened to me they wouldn't have few virus problems to begin with. and their clients would have safe email.
No, if ISPs listened to you they would go out of business, because their clients would refuse to tolerate the constant interruptions in service.
Here's a nice link about this type of practice going back to 1999. It was silly then, and it's still silly now.
»vmyths.com/rant.cfm?id=241&page=4 |
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linicx
Caveat Emptor
Premium
join:2002-12-03
United State | reply to LrdVader
If ISPs listened to me they wouldn't have few virus problems to begin with. and their clients would have safe email.
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LrdVader
Premium
join:2003-12-18
San Diego, CA
| reply to linicx
said by linicx :
Until someone gets a handle on this bot, the smart thing for every ISP to do is shut down the mail servers so it can't spread; locate the infected machines and notify the owners.
So every time there's a new virus found, email should grind to a screeching halt?
Do you know how ridiculous that sounds? Think about it. If ISPs listened to you, email would be down more than it would be up, and would be completely useless for anything even remotely important.
Is that really what you want? |
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rklein
God Among Hogs
join:2001-01-18
Worcester, MA | reply to linicx
You don't run your own mail server, do you?
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russotto
join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA | reply to B777300
Unix systems tend to be compromised, when compromised, by attacks directly addressed to the system which is compromised.
Microsoft systems are compromised by attacks addressed "to whom it may concern". |
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B777300
join:2002-01-02
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said by INHCNN :
said by linicx :
It is very scary if you own a machine with a Microsoft Operating System running it.
Yep, because *nix systems aren't ever compramised. (rolls eyes)
I hope that was a joke, or that would show your ignorance. |
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Corvus
Flaming Tards Since 2003
Premium,VIP
join:2003-11-26
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Unfortunately, yes. I deal with angry people who wants to quit us everyday, and when they loose business because the service was down trust me, they don't care about spam because money talks.
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linicx
Caveat Emptor
Premium
join:2002-12-03
United State | reply to Corvus
Yeah, you're right . 500,000 customers probably do prefer worms served with spam and morning coffee.
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INHCNN
join:2001-12-15
Lansing, MI
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said by linicx :
It is very scary if you own a machine with a Microsoft Operating System running it.
Yep, because *nix systems aren't ever compramised. (rolls eyes)
said by linicx :
Until someone gets a handle on this bot...
It's not just *one* bot. I've seen a large variety of IRC bots and FXP sites - and they all contribute to the same problem.
These kinds of activities though are going to be what blows the lid off of the computer underground. You have a lot of kids out there installing root kits, bots, and FTP servers en mass, and it is starting to draw attention. This has always been a problem for people like myself who deal with it everyday, but now the public at large is starting to get involved, and that will change the game.
Although, this is the first time that I've seen it all refered to as "organized crime". When I first read it, I got a chuckle out of it. But if you think about it: pre relase movies, music, and applications are very commonplace in the underground, and that can be used as a platform to call such activities "organized crime". Not that the older stuff isn't crime, it just doesn't have the same life as the major pre-release stuff.
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Optimized
Premium,Mod
join:2001-05-03
Pompton Lakes, NJ
clubs: | reply to linicx
I have not seen any abnormal requests in my logs during the past 24 hours.
Shields up  |
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Corvus
Flaming Tards Since 2003
Premium,VIP
join:2003-11-26 | reply to linicx
Humm, my example: you have 500 000 customers and they pay for the service, how can you shutdown mail servers without loosing money (you must refund them) and customers?
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linicx
Caveat Emptor
Premium
join:2002-12-03
United State
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It is very scary if you own a machine with a Microsoft Operating System running it.
Until someone gets a handle on this bot, the smart thing for every ISP to do is shut down the mail servers so it can't spread; locate the infected machines and notify the owners.
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Optimized
Premium,Mod
join:2001-05-03
Pompton Lakes, NJ
clubs: | That's probably a conservative estimate too! |
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