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reply to R2

Re: IU Batch File Instructions Tweaking Thread

said by MeeToo:

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R2, I don't have a Tweak UI on my Win98, don't know what you're saying here.

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As for the icon showing generic in the Scheduled Task, I think this doing much ado about nothing, don't you think?

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The real concern here for me, is: does your batch file now delete the symcdefsi32.exe file?

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I notice that you have C:\TEMP\Intelligent.bat as the path in Task Scheduler. Does this mean you named your folder in all caps, TEMP? Did you also change the scripts to reflect the all caps TEMP?

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said by R2:

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I honestly do not feel that DOS is able to differentiate caps and lower-case letters. DEL is del is Del - and - Temp is temp is TEMP. However, I will be happy to compulsive verify this just to be sure.

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Thanks for humoring me!

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said by R2:

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Just pointing out that unlike the image you posted here, both of my Win98 computers don't have a Control Panel entry for Scheduled Tasks. As best I can tell, that entry is not standard and even TweakUI does not give me an option to turn it on.

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said by R2:

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after running the .bat/.pif file the symcdefsi32.exe file persists.

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said by R2:

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I was just asking if anyone knew the trick to making the icons unique.

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said by MeeToo:

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The pics I posted up there were from my WinMe box

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reply to MeeToo7
OK, here is the dirt. I compulsively made everything have capital letters for TEMP. It does not matter. But here is the issue -- at least for my computer:

226 Transfer complete.
ftp: 3469395 bytes received in 42.51Seconds 81.61Kbytes/sec.
ftp> quit
221 Goodbye.

C:\TEMP>choice /n/t:c,30/c:cc
C

C:\TEMP>"c:\TEMP\symcdefsi32.exe" /q

C:\TEMP>choice /n/t:c,30/c:cc
C

C:\TEMP>del "c:\TEMP\symcdefsi32.exe"
Access denied

C:\TEMP>

R2,

What does the NT batch file do on your 98 system??? (Yes I know there is a distinction, but the 9.x batch file was derived from a problem that some 9.x systems had.)

R2, scheduled task folder in 98 is found by double clicking the "My Computer" icon on the desktop. Sorry about the over look. (I just booted up my laptop that has 98 on it, and found it there.)

This weekend if you still have probs with the batch file I'll hook my laptop up to the network and get the batch file working. (Unfortunately it won't be plug and check, because I have to uninstall the old NAV that is on it, and put a new version on it.)
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Just my 2 bits.

reply to R2
R2, when I first created the batch file and ran it, I encountered the "access denied" also, when the batch file tried to delete the symcdefsi32.exe file. But I think that was because I quickly pressed "c" when the following command was being executed: choice /n/t:c,30/c:cc

I presume you included this command, to interject a 30-sec delay before proceeding to the next command in the batch file. Yet I circumvented this delay by quickly pressing "c", rather than waiting for it to choose "c" by default after 30 secs.

My thinking was, perhaps the symcdefsi32.exe file was still locked when the "del c:\TEMP\symcdefsi32.exe" command was executed, resulting in the "access denied" message. Had I waited and allowed the full 30-sec delay, perhaps it would have worked and deleted symcdefsi32.exe as it was supposed to.

Since I have a home network, with all three computers running NAV, I modified the batch file and removed the 30-sec choice commands, along with the delete command. This is what my intelligent.bat file looks like now:

@echo off
ftp -s:cescript.txt
echo.
echo Intelligent Update Downloaded:
echo Press Ctrl-C and Y to abort, or
echo to install the virus definitions,
pause
"c:\temp\symcdefsi32.exe"

I removed the delete command, because I need the symcdefsi32.exe file to install on my clients, after installing on my gateway computer. With a home network, it's easy to access symcdefsi32.exe from the clients from within Network Neighborhood.

I created a (.pif) file, set to "close window on exit", and place it in a Maintenance folder on my desktop. This modification has worked just fine, and it's easy for me to update the virus definitions for all three of my machines (one gateway, two clients).

Thanks again to you and MeeToo, for your original work in providing this convenient batch file.

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R2, try adjusting the:
C:\TEMP>choice /n/t:c,30/c:cc

To say this:
C:\TEMP>choice /n/t:c,60/c:cc

And see if the problem goes away.
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Just my 2 bits.

THANKS.

I think you guys are 100% correct. The 30 second delay was likely catching the symcdefsi32.exe file at a time when it had not finished running -- therefore, 'access was denied' and the file could not be deleted.

If I run the batch file with very little else going on at the same time, the file completes its run in under 30 seconds and the file is appropriately deleted.

However, if my computer is in its usual and customary state -- with 5-6 programs running at the same time -- THEN symcdefsi32.exe does not have time to complete its run. The batch file's 30 second delay is too short and symcdefsi32.exe cannot be deleted!

Thanks for all the helpful input.
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MeeToo this is a great idea. I know you think this is only for computer geeks and security nuts -- but I disagree!! The people who need this most are those who are the most unsafe and know the least about security. They are the one's that are most likely to be infected by a virus or worm. JMHO

Glad you guys finally found the problem! I'll update the instructions file I keep and add to the troubleshoot the 60 sec delay if there's an access denied error in Win98

said by R2:

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MeeToo this is a great idea. I know you think this is only for computer geeks and security nuts -- but I disagree!! The people who need this most are those who are the most unsafe and know the least about security. They are the one's that are most likely to be infected by a virus or worm. JMHO

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