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Hutch
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A Fix For ZAP's Slow Loading On Boot-up

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It has become a common complaint in the forum here at dslreports. ZAP is slow to load while booting up you're pc. So i have been playing around with ZAP 3.0.118's settings. I have discovered that the Component Control in ZAP's Program Control Section is the culprit for causing slow boot up on user's pc. The Component Control searches you're hard drive on boot-up for all files listed in its file. While Zonelabs consider this to be a good security measure to protect and check all dll/exe/etc that require access to the internet. It has turned out to be a nightmare for some users, causing slow boot-up.

Here is my temporary fix for this problem.

1. Shut down ZAP.

2. Delete all files in C:\Windows\Internet Logs also remove them from you're recycle bin.

3. Re-boot you're pc.

4. Re-configure ZAP ie: in the programs sections set program control to medium. Turn off Component Control as shown in picture.

5. Make sure you check all the other settings like privacy options etc and set them to how you want them.

6. Re-boot again and you should a difference.

I hope this helps evryone who has been having issues with slow boot-up.
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Patruk

join:2001-10-25
Stockton, CA

This fix worked for me. Anybody having this problem should give it a try.



MrChuckles
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Westminster, MD

reply to Hutch

I am running ZAP *.*.118. I don't have the option of turning off the Component Learning. How did you get that on yours?

TIA


Hutch
My Throne is the Dunny
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When you installed ZAP. Did you up-date or did you do a clean install. You have to do a clean install after cleaning all ZAP files out of you're registry
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Jamming777$
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Disabling Component Control does open you to a greater possibility of a Trojan, but it is a Speed-Up. However, if you have a good Trojan Scanner, like Trojan Hunter, then you might want to consider it.
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reply to Hutch
»www.security-pro.co.uk/yabb/YaBB···;start=4

...here is a high cpu usage by zap3 thread. Guy seems to have gotten a letter from ZA with a fix at least for his problem.



MrChuckles
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reply to Hutch

said by Judgedredd:
When you installed ZAP. Did you up-date or did you do a clean install. You have to do a clean install after cleaning all ZAP files out of you're registry

I did a clean install, and removed everything from the registry before installing the new version.

Hmm....
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amark

join:2001-02-09
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reply to Hutch
Same question, my ZAP doesn't have the option of turning off Componenet Learning. Why doesn't it? Thanks.
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Conejo1

join:2002-03-13
Austin, TX

reply to Hutch
Do we know exactly the security impact of disabling component control?



Randy Bell
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join:2002-02-24
Santa Clara, CA

Conejo, I think component control allows ZAP to pass the FireHole leak test -- see PC Flank's comments at »www.pcflank.com/art21.htm, where they say, in a footnote:

Zone Alarm Pro with default settings also fails Firehole test but if you move "Program control" slider to the "High" level the program will turn-on its "dll-files control" feature and will pass the test by blocking Firehole' dll-file.

So I think that answers some of your question. I never could get ZAP 3 to behave properly on my system.


Conejo1

join:2002-03-13
Austin, TX

reply to Hutch
Thanks Randy. So if that is true, then we apparently have the choice of slow loadups or compromising security.

Terrific.

I'm demoing LnS now and really like it. At this point, I don't see going back to ZAP. One thing I like about LnS, with application filtering enabled (takes 2 seconds to do), it was the only firewall (if I'm remembering correctly) to pass all 5 leaktests at pcflank.



Randy Bell
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join:2002-02-24
Santa Clara, CA

Yes you're right, Look'n'Stop was the only one to pass all five tests. It does require application filtering enabled, in order to pass.

Both Sygate Pro and ZAP 3 were able to pass four out of five tests, when their "DLL-checking" feature was turned on. I just never could get ZAP 3 to work well on my system, and it uses up a lot of resources.

So, I returned to ZAP 2.6.362, which is very stable and compatible with ICS. I use AdSubtract Pro for privacy.



ironwalker
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join:2001-08-31
Keansburg, NJ

reply to Hutch
running the newest version ZAP has no "componant control" option:(
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Hutch
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reply to Jamming777$

said by Jamming777:
Disabling Component Control does open you to a greater possibility of a Trojan, but it is a Speed-Up. However, if you have a good Trojan Scanner, like Trojan Hunter, then you might want to consider it.

Thats why i disabled this feature. I have a good Trojan Scanner, always running on my system.

ZAP's resource usage has dropped by 55% as well. Since disabling this setting. And the BUCKUP.RDB and IAMDB.RDB files are around 65% smaller without Component Control being on.
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Conejo1

join:2002-03-13
Austin, TX

reply to Hutch
Does anti trojan software typically help one pass the Firehole leak test? I didn't think so, but could well be wrong there. If so, then I agree, no biggie if you also run a good AT package. If not, then I still see disabling this feature as problematic.



Randy Bell
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Santa Clara, CA

You're right, Rick -- antitrojan software has nothing to do with the way FireHole works. FireHole piggybacks on top of Internet Explorer (an allowed application); ZAP's DLL-checking feature must be enabled in order to detect and stop FireHole. My version 2.6.362 of ZAP fails the FireHole leak test, because it has no component control. In PC Flank's comparison, Sygate Pro and ZAP 3 were able to pass FireHole test, only when the DLL-checking feature was enabled in these firewalls. For myself, I figure that if I'm not going to have component control activated, and if I don't need the privacy features in ZAP 3, then ZAP 2.6.362 is fine for my purposes, especially since I can't get ZAP 3 to work well on my system.



Jamming777$
Time Is Running Out
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USA

reply to ironwalker

said by ironwalker:
running the newest version ZAP has no "componant control" option:(

It does. If you go to the Program Control Page and Choose High Program Control, a little box should appear allowing you to choose "component control" beneath the slider. It only appears in the "High" setting.
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Patruk

join:2001-10-25
Stockton, CA

reply to Hutch
Jamming.......Component control appears in my ZAP 3.0.118 in the Medium setting as well as in the High setting.



Jamming777$
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USA

said by Hobnob:
Jamming.......Component control appears in my ZAP 3.0.118 in the Medium setting as well as in the High setting.
If you select it at the higher setting it will stay selected when you go lower, but if you don't see it there that's what you need to do to get the choice, at least according to the manual.
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MiniMe$
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join:2002-03-30
Waterford, MI

reply to Hutch
I just posted the essence of what ZA Support finally sent me - only took them three weeks. Your's is way better. Am going to reply to them with a link to this thread.


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