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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/737475"><b>BosstonesOwn</b></A> :  <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>said by  Karl Bode <A HREF="/useremail/u/141383"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>:</SMALL><HR> <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>quote:</SMALL><HR> 1. Infection detected - Warning letter sent out<br>2. Infection detected a week later - Phone call and warning letter sent out.<br>3. Infection detected two weeks later - Shut off internet service to home. When user calls to have it reactivated, explain the situation. When the user's computer is cleaned up, then internet service will be reactivated.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br><br>The zealots in the newsgroups who would destroy a small Ohio town and all of their pets to stop a spammer will find that unacceptable.<br><br>To satiate them, I suggest:<br><br>1. Beatings about the head and chest.<br>2. Floggings.<br>3. More Floggings.<br> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br><br>I think #3 was supposed to be death by being "spammed" with cans of actual SPAM.<br><br>Disturbing very very Disturbing.<br><SMALL>--<br>This package does not contain a winner...</SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2004 20:34:42 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/429566"><b>Jason Levine</b></A> :  <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>said by  Nightfall <A HREF="/useremail/u/443491"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>:</SMALL><HR><br>All ISPs have got to come up with a policy.  The steps of this new policy should be VERY easy.<br><br>1.  Infection detected - Warning letter sent out<br>2.  Infection detected a week later - Phone call and warning letter sent out.<br>3.  Infection detected two weeks later - Shut off internet service to home.  When user calls to have it reactivated, explain the situation.  When the user's computer is cleaned up, then internet service will be reactivated.<br> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br><br>Very good idea.  It gives the user ample time and warning to fix the problem while taking care of the situation in a reasonable time frame.<br><br>Of course, then you might also have "repeat offenders" who get infected (and are forced to clean their systems) regularly.  Perhaps 3 Internet shut offs in a specified short period of time (3 months?) would lead to account termination.  (Since they obviously didn't get the point about securing their PC.)<br><SMALL>--<br>-Jason Levine<BR><A HREF="http://www.jasons-toolbox.com/">http://www.jasons-toolbox.com/</A><BR><A HREF="http://www.PCQandA.com/">http://www.PCQandA.com/</A><BR><A HREF="http://www.urateit.com/">http://www.urateit.com/</A></SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2004 13:37:02 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/793276"><b>brandon</b></A> : Well more than a year--nimda was released in 2001.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2004 10:32:32 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/141383"><b>Karl Bode</b></A> :  <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>quote:</SMALL><HR> 1. Infection detected - Warning letter sent out<br>2. Infection detected a week later - Phone call and warning letter sent out.<br>3. Infection detected two weeks later - Shut off internet service to home. When user calls to have it reactivated, explain the situation. When the user's computer is cleaned up, then internet service will be reactivated.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br><br>The zealots in the newsgroups who would destroy a small Ohio town and all of their pets to stop a spammer will find that unacceptable.<br><br>To satiate them, I suggest:<br><br>1. Beatings about the head and chest.<br>2. Floggings.<br>3. More Floggings.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2004 10:21:55 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/443491"><b>Nightfall</b></A> : This goes far beyond Comcast.  Broadband users install SQL server, IIS, and Windows 2000 server on their broadband connections and just open up the ports on their routers.  Then, they don't patch their systems.  My router logs all these attacks and I see IPs on various networks.  Comcast, SBC, Charter, and the list goes on.<br><br>Yes, Comcast seems to be making a move.  However, ALL ISPs have to make this move.  Anyone infected with the Nimda virus for instance.  I still get attacks on my router from people infected with this virus.  I can't believe it.  A patch was out for that attack 6 months before it was released.  It has been about a year now (I think) and people are STILL infected?  Gimmie a break.<br><br>It just goes to show you why the TOS/AUP is written against users having servers on their broadband connections.  Even with hardware/software firewalls, the problem exists between keyboard and chair.  PEBKAC.<br><br>All ISPs have got to come up with a policy.  The steps of this new policy should be VERY easy.<br><br>1.  Infection detected - Warning letter sent out<br>2.  Infection detected a week later - Phone call and warning letter sent out.<br>3.  Infection detected two weeks later - Shut off internet service to home.  When user calls to have it reactivated, explain the situation.  When the user's computer is cleaned up, then internet service will be reactivated.<br><br>All users running these services need to be aware of the situation as well.  If they want to run these services and expose them to the internet, then they have to be responsible for them.  This means, patching and updating.  I have no problem with people wanting to run a small WWW site or FTP site on their connections.  The problem is when these things are installed and the ports just opened without any thought to patching or updating.  If users want their cake and eat it too, then they have to be more responsible for their systems.<br><SMALL>--<br><A HREF="http://www.nightfall.net">My Domain</A><BR><A HREF="http://cbdudek.livejournal.com">Nightfall's Hockey and Life Journal</A></SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2004 10:15:40 EDT</pubDate>
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