Re: Another reason to use Firebird... in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r8764694 en Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:13:28 EDT Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:13:28 EDT Re: Another reason to use Firebird... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8788046 Hazeleyze : After I saw this, I switched to Firebird 0.7. This is my first experience with another browser and I don't miss IE one little bit. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8788046 Sun, 14 Dec 2003 21:28:18 EDT Re: Another reason to use Firebird... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8787389 KrK : Yep, clicked the link and saw.....

(http deleted) " www.symantec.com%01@i.dslr.net/symantec/www.symantec.com/index.html "

:)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8787389 Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:10:03 EDT Re: Another reason to use Firebird... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8775240 jram : Thank-you,I just started using Firebird a couple months ago and have it the way I want..I have a couple of comments,I 'm on the machine at least 7hrs.a day,never been to a site that I have had a problem on ,including on-line banking..They have a extension open with IE just in case..I haven't had any kind of a pop-up since I've been using Firebird,not even the sliding ones.
Last thing,yes IE can be set-up to be secure but it will drive you nuts with them asking all of the time blah blah blah,I have to many things to do to waste my time..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8775240 Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:04:52 EDT Re: Another reason to use Firebird... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8771199 jose3030 : Just dont track my online movements and we'll be fine!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8771199 Fri, 12 Dec 2003 23:56:07 EDT Re: Another reason to use Firebird... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8771139 Hayward :
said by inciter See Profile:
Glad I don't use FireBird! or anything eles but IE! At least they come up with the fixes and warnings. Are you under the same bug? Maybe maybe not.... But at least I know whats wrong with my browser and how to fix it.

Its a shame how easily some can be deluded by MicroGod(soft).... M$ has a long and unwavering history of releasing things long before they are ready and solid, just because they SEEM to work... however they never even seem to attempt to break them. Its is a closed group of self interested developers.
The only reason you know about any of the problems is because someone OUTSIDE M$ found them and embarrassed them into fixing them... Microsoft does not find them themselves. And since the source code is not readily available no one else can look for the problems BEFORE they happen. They just create new "glitter features" that more often than not cause problems, because they haven't worked them hard enough once they have the appearance of working.

Mozilla on the other hand is a consortium of INDEPENDENT developers... and even if a bad apple got in and tried to do something bad... the other would likely spot it before it was even released. Plus there are people going over the code everyday, mostly with the goal of improving it, but also often correcting problems.

But go right a head delude yourself into believing M$ will protect you... you'll get had sooner or later.
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»haywardm.com (Hayward's Key West) ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8771139 Fri, 12 Dec 2003 23:48:22 EDT Re: Another reason to use Firebird... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8770855 jplove71 :
said by jram See Profile:
The flaw, wherein Internet Explorer displays the contents of one web site while showing a different, incorrect, address in the browser address bar, is not confined to IE but also affects version 0.7 of the Mozilla Firebird browser, according to a security analyst from Secure Data Group.
The difference between MSIE and Mozilla Firebird is that the fake URL is visible in the address bar in Firebird whereas it isn't when using MSIE.
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Browsing with Mozilla Firebird 0.7]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8770855 Fri, 12 Dec 2003 23:11:43 EDT Re: Another reason to use Firebird... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8770160 jram : I hope this isn't true

A vulnerability which affects Internet Explorer can be exploited by scammers who try to trick people into revealing details of online banking accounts or other private information.

The flaw, wherein Internet Explorer displays the contents of one web site while showing a different, incorrect, address in the browser address bar, is not confined to IE but also affects version 0.7 of the Mozilla Firebird browser, according to a security analyst from Secure Data Group.

Ben Robson said members of the security communirty had found that all users of Internet Explorer 6, Outlook Express 6 and Mozilla Firebird 0.7 - the last-named on both Linux and Windows - were affected by this vulnerability.

However, others have contested the claim that the flaw can be exploited under Mozilla Firebird.

The flaw was disclosed on Wednesday by graphic designer Sam Greenhalgh who has set up a demonstration here.

Robson said the big giveaway in scams like those on eBay, where users were asked to enter details at a bogus website, was that the URL would not match the "eBay.com" address.
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"This new vulnerability allows the attacker to send the victim to a page that looks and behaves just like the eBay site and has the "eBay.com" address in the address bar. But in fact any information the user provides is being sent to another website looking to steal their details," he said.

Robson said a malicious user could use this vulnerability and create a series of fake websites that looked like they were those of a legitimate company.

"They can ask the user for credit card details. However upon going to the page, inspite of what the URL states, the user is in fact at the malicious user's website. As a result the user may unwittingly enter important personal information," he said.

Using a technique such as this with the recent 'eBayUpdates' scam would have made the scam almost impossible to detect until it was too late for thousands of victims, Robson said.

He said it worked with SSL-encrypted links as well. "As such it would be very easy for someone to misrepresent themselves as a bank, or other financial institute and convince the user to input their access details. Even the little 'lock' symbol at the bottom of the browser would look right.

"We have proved that it is possible to direct a web browser to an alternate web server, whilst placing a bank's URL in the address bar, and having the link place the banks URL in the status bar at the bottom of the screen. As such we can see no way that a user might determine that a link is illegitimate," he said.

Neither Microsoft nor the Mozilla project have yet publicly reacted to the news of the vulnerability.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8770160 Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:59:50 EDT Re: Another reason to use Firebird... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8769794 Winerin : Good for you, but since IE is given with the operating system a very high percentage of people will only use IE. In addition, many are not expert programers and are not aware of issues such as these and will be very hurt by these.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8769794 Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:24:32 EDT Re: Another reason to use Firebird... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8768031 Xtract : And what is your suggestion for fixing this one?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8768031 Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:50:08 EDT Re: Another reason to use Firebird... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8767786 inciter : Glad I don't use FireBird! or anything eles but IE! At least they come up with the fixes and warnings. Are you under the same bug? Maybe maybe not.... But at least I know whats wrong with my browser and how to fix it.
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A SUCKER is born every min. On the Internet a SUCKER is born every Sec.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8767786 Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:21:56 EDT Re: Another reason to use Firebird... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8766986 jplove71 : Mozilla Firebird product page. I've been using Firebird for about 9 months now, Mozilla for 1 1/2 yrs before that, and Netscape 4.x before that.
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Browsing with Mozilla Firebird 0.7]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8766986 Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:02:20 EDT Re: Another reason to use Firebird... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8766048 insomniac84 :
said by mrchris See Profile:
Using Firebird since 0.6 and Thunderbird since 0.2 :)

Do you want a cookie?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8766048 Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:10:31 EDT Re: Another reason to use Firebird... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8765913 mrchris : Using Firebird since 0.6 and Thunderbird since 0.2 :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8765913 Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:53:52 EDT Re: Another reason to use Firebird... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8765494 Xtract : Use good old google :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8765494 Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:02:50 EDT Re: Another reason to use Firebird... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8765394 deltat2000 : Okay...........now that you have me totally paranoid..whats the real url/link to Opera or Firebird?

Hopefully Justin will post it.......I think I'de trust his links...

deltat2000 softly whistles in the dark! and thinks "boy its getting kinda scary online"
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said by Xtract See Profile:
I loaded firebird when I read the first article and have not touched IE since.


Been using it for a long time now and only use IE for updates........have been a happy camper since
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»www.symantec.com%2Fanything%2FI%···dex.html

from IE
»www.symantec.com/anything/I/want···ut/here/

Interesting

From my understanding you can clock the URL line to just about anything you want. I use that for our webmail so it just shows the hostname not the IP.

ym]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8764746 Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:49:03 EDT Re: Another reason to use Firebird... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8764694 Amaethon : No fix yet eaither.. shessh]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8764694 Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:42:38 EDT Another reason to use Firebird... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8764622 borborpa : :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8764622 Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:35:06 EDT