[SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? in HughesNet Satellite http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r7969037 en Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:26:27 EDT Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:26:27 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8697274 anon : Is there any way for an end user to configure the dw6000's settings??? Is there extra software needed or i just want to change a few things like turning dhcp off to suit my router better.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8697274 Fri, 05 Dec 2003 14:35:06 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8613545 anon : I just got the e-mail yesterday, but mine says $399 - $100 for return of 4000 equip - $100 for 15 month agreement + $25 shipping and handling. $225 just to upgrade, no. The really sucky thing is though right now with the 4000 on the USB on a Gateway PII 300 and then out to wireless, the speed sucks for anything outside of that main Gateway. I want the damn ethernet interface to bypass that computer!! Oh well, I guess I'll just have to wait for the price to go down or find one for sale somewhere. GGRRRRR!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8613545 Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:04:12 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8556168 anon : What a ripoff for the dw6000. Maybe if it were 100.00 I'd consider it. I can't wait for the day when fixed wireless hits my area, then I can destroy my direcway equipment so it can't contaminate the rest of the population.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8556168 Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:54:31 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8550147 Tweeker2 : Don't see what all the fuss is about. Why would it be considered a good deal to pay that kind of money to replace the DW4000 which works just fine. Unless you're into having to have a new gadget to play with - I'll stay with my DW4000 that is already paid for.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8550147 Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:39:12 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8548595 anon : I just received an email from direcway, for early upgrade adoption!
$499 for unit, with a $100 refund when i return my old 4000 and another $100 credit if I agree to extend 15 months]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8548595 Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:51:31 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8487229 Techless : The price for the upgrade to the DW600 may not be set in stone yet.
Excessive interest and "pressure on them to get it done" may just convince them to charge more for it.
I say wait and see. Don't beg, just wait.
Most of us have the quite tweakable DW4000, they will have to show me why I should fork over any amount to "upgrade" to a system totally within their control.
I already have a system over which I have atleast a bit of control.
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So here's an idea, if you feel so motivated. Call them up and ask! Maybe a lot of calls will put pressure on them to get it done. Couldn't hurt! I usually punch my way to sales through the 1-800-direcpc number.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8487083 Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:14:11 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8476216 samco : I think if it is "around 100 dollars" that for sure there is going to be another year+ commitment. IMHO

sam
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quote:
I'll believe THAT when I see it. If Hughes actually sells it anywhere near that reasonably priced, I promise I'll never say anything bad about them ever again. BigCreek See Profile

I'll hold you to that...;)

DAVe edit:fixed quote
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quote:
]Talked to my local Dway retailer and he says the upgrade will be in $100.00 range.
I'll believe THAT when I see it. If Hughes actually sells it anywhere near that reasonably priced, I promise I'll never say anything bad about them ever again.
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Meanwhile you are right about that guy's feedback.. big warning bells going off there. And who even knows if you can upgrade to the 6000 just by switching it out at this time?

If anything we should e-mail the winning bidder and find out how it goes :)
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8473410 Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:54:36 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8472868 teppy : I can't believe someone paid that much either. It makes me wonder how someone got a hold of the modem in the first place without the whole setup. If the seller didn't have such negative feedback, I would swear it was DW trying out the market to see if they could get this much for the modem. I feel like emailing the buyer to see if its real or not. Either way, it could be bad if marketing finds out that people are paying this much on ebay.
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said by busboy789 See Profile:
fwiw; there is a 6000 on ebay for ~$200. not mine, I saw it and thought of this thread.


Here's the link. >> »cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi···ory=3692

Avoid this auction. I smell some bad juju. :(
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said by Dominokat See Profile:


It's available today with a free upgrade. ;)


WooHoo! Thanks for the great news.. ohhh wait... ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8467424 Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:28:41 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8466089 phyde5 : See »www.lincsat.com/e/1000/1303e.asp for Canadian supplier's details regarding DW6000
(I do not work for lincsat, but they are my provider!)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8466089 Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:35:33 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8465810 tm227218 : Dway will keep us drooling with anticipation until we are willing to pay anything to get one.

Standard marketing tactic, dontcha know.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8465810 Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:01:19 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8465384 Dominokat :
said by vobguy See Profile:
Any good rumors on this one? Any bad rumors? ;)

At this point I will even take a made-up rumor :)


It's available today with a free upgrade. ;)
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8465361 Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:00:29 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8465077 vobguy : Any good rumors on this one? Any bad rumors? ;)

At this point I will even take a made-up rumor :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8465077 Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:19:35 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8431494 samco :
said by walderi:
All,

However, he did state that with the DW6000 is married pretty tightly with the transmitter/receiver on the dish that everyone would have to buy all of the equipment, not just the modem. The 599 price is inclusive of installation.



Q: Do I need to get a new dish for the DW6000?
A: No. The DW6000 upgrade kit requires no modifications to your outdoor DIRECWAY equipment.

from here
»www.mydirecway.com/mydw/common/2···faqs.jsp

sam
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I just got off the phone with Direcway and this is what this particular sales person said:

Still no upgrade path has been announced. However, he did state that with the DW6000 is married pretty tightly with the transmitter/receiver on the dish that everyone would have to buy all of the equipment, not just the modem. The 599 price is inclusive of installation.

If you when through a VAR (like I am with Earthlink). You are SOL. It will be up to the individual VARs if there will be a upgrade path or not. There isn't any guarantees to be allowed to upgrade.

That is the story today, subject to frequent changes. The info is provided as is and was accurate up to the point I hung up from Direcway.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8431240 Thu, 06 Nov 2003 11:17:26 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8430516 vobguy : I wonder if I beg real hard if they would let me upgrade....

OH PLEASE OH PLEASE OH PLEASE OH PLEASE PLEEEAASSE Let me upgrade to a dw6000. Pretty please with sugar on top...

Ok, I feel better now :) Actually I am not really THAT desperate for the dw6000 anymore. I found that when I installed the Cisco VPN client on my new laptop, it changed some stuff in the networking, (as well as the appearance of my login screen, etc), and now I can surf just fine like I could with my other laptop.

Wish I could install that client on my wife's old laptop she refuses to get rid of, but somehow I think it might not play well with Windows 95.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8430516 Thu, 06 Nov 2003 09:41:10 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8427690 BigCreek : I suppose we shouldn't be surprised. They announced the DW4020 almost a year before anyone could actually buy one. (And their sales pitch turned out to be less than truthful.)

With the DW6000 it looked like they might be getting it right. The product appears to be on the mark, but they need to get on with it.
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said by Dominokat See Profile:
Where did anyone, including myself, get the idea this upgrade was going to be made available in October?
When the DW6000 was first released, there was a "target date" for the wider upgrade release that was internally announced only. That date leaked out, and was toward the end of October. Obviously, the target date was missed. Once can only guess that the steps required to get every satellite/transponder combination ready for the new equipment is taking longer than originally anticipated.
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Don't know how much good this does, but I'll probably check again next week.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8422124 Wed, 05 Nov 2003 13:02:30 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8411094 vobguy :
said by gabe58 See Profile:
I saw another forum on dslreports.com that seemed to have a $425 price tag for upgrades from 4000 to the DW6000. price complaining aside - is there any truth to this number? I can't seem to find it on direcway.com anywhere.


AFAIK, the only place to quote this price is in a thread on DSLreports. Not sure if that is the price it will end up being or not, though I really hope it is far more reasonable.

Unfortunately, even if it isn't I probably will get it as soon as I can.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8411094 Tue, 04 Nov 2003 10:58:45 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8410248 gabe58 : I saw another forum on dslreports.com that seemed to have a $425 price tag for upgrades from 4000 to the DW6000. price complaining aside - is there any truth to this number? I can't seem to find it on direcway.com anywhere.
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said by jslide See Profile:
Today's update from DirecWay sales: no date, no price, no information. I keep checking, can't help myself, even though I may be disapointed in the end.


Thank you for doing it though... helps others of us (including us lurkers) from going crazy. Good to know I am not the only one awaiting this info with baited breath. I have 2 laptops that have various problems connecting through my wireless LAN using the ICS, probably because my desktop hooked to the DW4000 is a piece of junk Win 98 SE. My third laptop running Win2k pro works fine, though.

But I would love to take my desktop out of the loop, maybe upgrade the OS and do some stuff with it, but for now I am stuck with a cruddy OS that locks up and crashes on average once a day, and with it goes down my internet connection for my laptop. I am tired of throwing time down a sink hole.. now I want to throw some hardware at the problem instead ;)

I don't want to pay 425 bucks but if that is the price (as rumored) I probably will pay it... though if it requires a full year commitment I may just buy the whole deal over again. With a new baby in the house as a first time father and first time new homeowner, my times is at a premium, I just don't want to spend another 4 or 5 fruitless hours trying to get everything to work properly. Guess I was spoiled by cable modems, it was much easier to get a LAN connecting properly with it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8368928 Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:44:59 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8368709 jslide : Today's update from DirecWay sales: no date, no price, no information. I keep checking, can't help myself, even though I may be disapointed in the end.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8368709 Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:18:53 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8255476 SpectreToo :
said by jslide See Profile:
(Don't you love how all the DirecWay 1st tier tech support in India--or wherever--give you their name and then their nickname? "Hi, my name is Rashneesh, but you can call me Rickie."


I quit calling tech about a year ago because they have NEVER solved a problem. I usually reboot, check here for outages, wait an hour or two, or in the extreme uninstall/reinstall. Sometimes I just give up and the next day it works. I started with 1-way when they started years ago so have had many conversations with them in the past.

Anyway, I put my name on the list for upgrade so I can move my router to the window near the dish since when I moved my computer to the other end of the house signal dropped from 85 to 50 (probably bad cables) so any little rain and I lose connection.

I hope it really is only two weeks before they start shipping the upgrade DW6000.
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I have been following the discussion in this forum on the DW6000 (and using the speed tests and tweaks) so it's about time I signed up and chimed in. Thanks to PetDude and all who do such fantastic work and give great advice.

Here in the boonies, I have always had only one option for a fast connection: satellite. I started with the one-way and moved up to the 2 way system over 2 years ago. I'd love to get the DW6000 upgrade to improve my home network and so I can pull my laptop (the host box) without my wife losing her connection. (I actually have a way around this, but it's a pain.)

I've been on the phone with DirecWay sales several times. Yesterday I called Galaxy Broadband and spoke with Al (nice guy) in sales. No one has an upgrade or knows what the upgrade path is yet. Al thought the upgrade would require an installer to come out. I referred him to the DirecWay site that says "easily user upgradeable" and sent him the URL.

Yesterday the sales person at DirecWay said they are working out the problems with making the DW6000 compatible with all existing 2 way user situations and so we can do it ourselves. They didn't know when this would happen, but he guessed two weeks. He said DirecWay will be selling it directly, although Al from Galaxy thought it would have to go through resellers. I told DirecWay I had signed up on the site for notification and he said I would probably hear before them.

All for now.

(Don't you love how all the DirecWay 1st tier tech support in India--or wherever--give you their name and then their nickname? "Hi, my name is Rashneesh, but you can call me Rickie."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8254610 Fri, 17 Oct 2003 11:49:09 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8239924 desmo1 : galaxy broadband has it now. they have stock. they are in Oakville.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8239924 Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:29:14 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8239874 desmo1 : The DW6000 is now available in Canada thru Galaxy Broadband
galaxybroadband.ca
Some stock has been shipped out west and they have stock in Toronto for sale to their dealers]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8239874 Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:24:31 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8228095 PetDude : processauto, what that refers to is just a suggestion to run a constant ping to some external server in order to keep the connection "alive" until the DW6000 stall issue is fixed. If you have a DW6000 and are getting these 20 second or more stalls it seems eliminate the problem. As someone said in another thread, it's a band-aid.

In Windows, open a command prompt box and issue the command "ping anyserver -t" where anyserver is any external server that will respond to your pings. You can then minimize the command box and the stalls should subside. An example would be "ping www.direcpc.com -t".

In Linux, open a console and the command would be "ping anyserver", with the example "ping www.direcpc.com".
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Keep in mind though that the DW6000 is targeted for consumers, whereas the DW4020 was/is targeted toward businesses.

You can fill out a form on the mydirecway site to be notified as soon as the upgrade is available.
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The 'ping'-hack seems to have made a difference. I'm continuing to 'ping' direcpc.com and pages load. I shut it off yesterday and I started having problems.

FWIW, check out the following stats - minimal packet loss on my long running pings. 


--- bahamut.direcpc.com ping statistics ---
55213 packets transmitted, 55102 received, 0% loss, time 55700668ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 563.412/771.197/3681.978/217.178 ms, pipe 4


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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8217818 Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:40:33 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8201755 PetDude : 1. The minimum requirements are stated that way because HNS cannot put support scripts together for every imaginable O/S. Yes it will work fine with Linux. But if you have problems with the DW6000 and call for support, you aren't going to get someone on the line who would have a clue how to even tell you to open a browser in Linux; forget about troubleshooting. The expectation is that if you are smart enough to run Linux, you are smart enough to troubleshoot on your own. If you call for help, have a supported O/S at the ready for troubleshooting with the support drone.

2. »[DW6000] DW6000 Home Network - Linksys Advise :-)
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1. Since the DW6000 does not require a pc to operate why is there still minimum pc requirements listed in the FAQ? There is mention of a PC and MAC configuration, but what about linux? The FAQ distinctly says the DW6000 is OS agnostic.

2. What about using a router to share the connection with a local LAN and to provide a firewall. The information on the DW site indicates a hub or switch, and even says that a firewall must be used on every pc connected on the local LAN. No mention of a router/firewall.. If a router *can* be used does it matter which kind? I have noticed some of them say "DSL" and others say "Cable Modem".. Is there a difference? Any information would be appreciated..
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8201673 Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:19:11 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8172826 jab22 : Im in saudia arabia I have got dw4000
I want to know is Dw6000 work in my country]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8172826 Wed, 08 Oct 2003 05:34:40 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8171917 newz71 : You know, as a former 2 way user, it almost saddens me that I was able to finally connect to a WISP, and now this DW6000 thing is about to be a wide reality. But then I look at my >100ms ping times, the faster upload.. and.. well.. I still have this little voice inside of me that says.. "oh! new and interesting looking satellite stuff! really want to try it!". Then the voice outside my head convinces the voice inside my head that Wireless is still better than satellite.

However, there are still MANY places Wireless is not available, and it is these areas that this DW6000 modem will be the perfect match for those seeking faster DLing with the connection/networking ease of cable/DSL/wireless ethernet based connections.

I'll have to watch and see how this all comes together.

greg
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8144547 Sat, 04 Oct 2003 21:42:33 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8140832 granny60 : I would think that the upgrade modem would be in line with cable modems which go for around $100 or less..Let's hope Direcway won't sock it to us..
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The DW6000 will of course eliminate that problem, and is now available. (I sure wish DirecWay or my installer had mentioned that to me 2 weeks ago!) My options are to:

1) exercise my 30 day service cancellation option, which would cost around $200 (the price of installation), or
2) wait for the modem upgrade offer, or
3) purchase a computer and live out my 1 year DW4000 contract.

Does anyone have a sense for the upgrade cost? If it's going to be more than $200, then I should cancel and get the whole new service (which seems crazy). But if it's less, then I will wait for the upgrade and swap out the modem. Really don't want to buy that PC.


]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8132431 Fri, 03 Oct 2003 12:48:21 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8121348 NoClones : On the MyDirecWay site if you go to "Chat" for their online help they have DW6000 as an option for hardware now. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8121348 Thu, 02 Oct 2003 08:12:15 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8117816 PetDude : I have no specific information regarding the Canadian release. You know what I know. The thing will work on any satellite, with existing outdoor equipment and is self installable as a DW4000 replacement sometime around October 22. How the Canadian dealers handle that is something I have no information about. Hopefully they can chime in?
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said by PetDude See Profile:
October 22 is the target date to have all satellites on line with the DW6000. It is at that point that user installed upgrades can begin as no re-point will be required for any existing customer with a DW4000.


This is indeed the best news we have heard for a long time!

Have you heard if this will apply to Canadian VAR customers as well?
I assume, at the most, they would just have to accommodate us with changed monthly service plans.
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Yes, I've done a lot of FTP uploads and downloads. Speeds have been equivalent to a DW4000 on the same satellite/transponder although I did find that my off-peak max was a bit higher with the DW6000 as far as downloads go.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8116993 Wed, 01 Oct 2003 18:49:54 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8116766 NoClones :
said by PalmTreeTech See Profile:


any news or info about G4R or G11 for the 6000?



Why would G4R and G11 have "news or info" different then the other satellite(s)? Am I missing something ? :-)
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8116766 Wed, 01 Oct 2003 18:20:07 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8116741 PalmTreeTech : pet dude, great info...

any news or info about G4R or G11 for the 6000?

have you done any ftp uploads, speed results?

thanks for all the time and info you've put into this post, very informative
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Heat: The receive circuitry is on top, and just like with our IRU's, that's where the heat comes from. I'd say it gets no hotter than the IRU on a 4000, perhaps a bit cooler.

Upgrade or not? I can't answer the question because I don't know the cost. If cost is no factor, then sure. Just getting the DAK software off your computer is benefit enough for me.
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said by samco See Profile:


most likely though a web interface to the modem.

sam


Ah okay, I didn't think about anything like that.
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said by NoClones See Profile:
Thought of something else.
If all the software is on the modem itself is there any way to check signal strength and things like that?


most likely though a web interface to the modem.

sam
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If all the software is on the modem itself is there any way to check signal strength and things like that?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8113165 Wed, 01 Oct 2003 10:33:34 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8113055 BigCreek : PetDude, thanks for all the information. You're a real asset to this forum. PreciateCha.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8113055 Wed, 01 Oct 2003 10:15:13 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8113022 NoClones : Basically the only other information I'm waiting for is the price of the modem. As soon as someone finds out please let us know. :-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8113022 Wed, 01 Oct 2003 10:07:31 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8112981 SeArChEr : Nevermind
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8112981 Wed, 01 Oct 2003 10:00:17 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 - public IP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8112729 unplugme : There are 2 levels of service on the 6000 residential-59.99- no IP and a new Pro version 350 MB thruput/day, 1IP included , 56 Modem included (emergency back up) will be 99.99 - US $. In Canada prices are $99.95 residential, $139.95 Pro.
Also the DW6000 will be able to support the dual in-route burstable 256 in the near future- don't know pricing yet.
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A couple more questions.

1) How much heat is generated by the 6000 compared to the 4000?

2) After using the 6000 extensively, what is your recommendation to 4000 users, upgrade or not?

Ken
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It all sounds good... I assume setting up clients with static IPs should not be a problem... ( My Network seems to have fewer problems that way ). I can see some topics coming up about UNtweaking the Host and client computers for those upgrading their DW4000 to the DW6000:-)

Waiting for the price -

Spin..
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Thanks PD. We all appreciate the photos. ;)
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8111447 Wed, 01 Oct 2003 01:53:48 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8111430 PetDude : The Blue Light Special. Front and Back. By special request from our friend Frank.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8111430 Wed, 01 Oct 2003 01:50:03 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8111407 PetDude : Spinnaker, yes it has DHCP and NAT capabilities. There is a "Pro" version for those with a need for a static IP. In that case the DHCP will only hand out one address, the static one, just like a cable modem. You would attach the unit to your computer if you only have one, or to a router if you want to share that IP.

For the average consumer who doesn't require a static IP, the unit can be attached directly to a computer, if there is only one, or to a hub or switch for a LAN. There is really no need for a router in this case as the DW6000 will hand out LAN IP's and handle the sharing itself.

By the way, the Mydirecway music will work on the client computers if attached through a switch or hub (so I hear), but not through a router. I haven't tested this as I must use a router in my applications, but I did test it for a short time directly connected to a computer and the music was there. The routers I used did not pass the music through, which I was told was to be expected.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8111407 Wed, 01 Oct 2003 01:44:14 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8111365 PetDude : Upload speeds. Yeah that. OK, here is the deal as best as I can describe it to you without getting myself in a heap of trouble. If you get a DW6000 that alone will not help your upload speed. You are still limited by the same in-route hardware at the NOC and the same methods of handling traffic. Expect the same upload speed, a new modem can't solve that by itself.

It has already been posted here that the DW6000 is supported on new in-routes that will allow for higher upload speed. But more specifically the new in-routes provide more upstream bandwidth per in-route which could mean more upload speed per customer or could mean more customers per in-route.

It doesn't mean those new in-routes would be available for free, or that they would be available in a consumer version, and I would complete discount any information from anyone who states they know one way or the other. I don't think anyone knows for sure. I'm guessing we will know before year end.

But in any event, the DW6000 won't be the only piece of new equipment you would need for the new in-route and you might not need the DW6000 depending on how old and what type of equipment you already have. You will need new stuff outside, for sure.

Bottom line is if the only reason you are considering upgrading is to get better upload speeds, save your money and wait a couple months to see what develops.
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said by PetDude See Profile:
.

I'll answer as many questions as I can....



PetDude -

Well.. Your comments about the DW6000 have me tweaked :-). The above illustration seems to indicate that the DW6000 has a NAT and DHCP capability... right? wrong?

Spin...


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DW6000 with Consumer service
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8111355 Wed, 01 Oct 2003 01:30:54 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8111307 numan98 : PetDude,

I like my Sat connection and have said this many times. My only complaint is the slow upload speeds. I am so hoping they are fixing this with the new modem. I have my fingers crossed. IF they are not doing something to help the upload speed I for one would not pay for a new modem. Unless at some point I was forced too. So if you have any information on the upload speeds I would love to hear it.

Thanks
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I'll answer as many questions as I can.

The DW6000 is available immediately for new installs on GC3 and Satmex5. It will be available for upgrades for anyone with a DW4000 by mid October. I don't have any cost information, and honestly I don't think it has been determined yet.

Unlike the DW4020, the 6000 runs the HPEP proxy client software on board. This means that you point your browser to use the proxy at the LAN address of the 6000 on port 87. The result is like a DW4020 on steroids when it comes to browsing. The knock on the 4020 has always been that due to the lack of the proxy, it does not browse nearly as fast as the DW4000. The 6000 is easily as fast, if not faster at browsing than a 4000. As a side note, for DW4020 owners, there is a plan to incorporate the HPEP client software on the 4020 as well in the future to solve that issue. I don't know when.

Like the 4020, there really are no tweaks on your computer to use the DW6000. Now I want to make sure the message gets out correctly, because I read too often things like "they took tweaking away with this", like it is some sort of conspiracy. That is complete nonsense. Both the 4020 and 6000 buffer data in and out for performance reasons. This means that your computer has a direct TCP connection to the modem, and the modem has a direct connection to the web server. The result is that your computer sees everything happening at LAN speed and LAN latency. So adjusting TCP settings on your computer is an effort in futility as by default, it is already tuned to work well at LAN speeds and latency.

So yes, that means the configurable TCP parameters that matter are on the modem itself, which you cannot control. That would only be a bad thing if those parameters are not optimized. I can tell you that I have seen no evidence on the DW4020 or the DW600 that communications parameters are not optimized. I can get as good or faster speeds on a DW6000 as I can on a fully tweaked DW4000. In fact the peaks I got were higher on the DW6000 on the same satellite, although I thought the average was about identical.

And to echo what Red Baron said, if HNS decides to cap your speed beyond whatever it is at now, tweaking your computer is meaningless anyway. They can cap your 4000 right now, and all the tweaking in the world wouldn't change that. Just ask folks with capped cable modems.

All tweaking does is make sure that your computer is getting all the available bandwidth. If the bandwidth is reduced, tweaking isn't helping anything. So as long as the DW6000 is giving you as much as is there to be got, stop worrying about not being able to tweak.

Now having said all that, you will be encouraged to run the LCCU when you get a DW6000. Please note that the newest version of the LCCU recognizes that adjusting TCP parameters on a client does absolutely nothing to enhance performance, so it doesn't do it. The only thing the latest version of the LCCU will do when you are on a DW6000 is adjust your maximum connections per server up to 15 for Internet Explorer. That will have a beneficial effect, but only if/when you aren't using the proxy, like HTTPS sites. I would manually adjust your maximum connections way higher than that, to about 64 or so to get the best performance for Web browsing outside the proxy. So there you go, you still get one tweak. ;-)

I will forewarn you with this caveat about speed. The in and out buffers that the DW6000 uses, in combination with the HPEP proxy, completely confuse the java speed tests. I have found no workaround for this, and at this point all I can say is the java speed tests are all but useless with the 6000. The upload speed might work, but downloads will report way slower than actual. I usually see downloads of about 600-800Kb/s with the occasional 1050Kb/s on the speed tests and yet real FTP downloads off peak were as high as 2500Kb/s, with an average probably around 1600Kb/s. This could cause us to re-think how we do the daily status thread.

If I missed a question, let me know. If I don't know the answer, I might be able to get it for you. My bottom line on the DW6000 is that it is easily the best product that has come out for Direcway yet. That doesn't mean it's perfect, but is is a very good thing to get that software off your computer and onto a dedicated processor, and it is also nice that it does this with a good degree of reliability. The blue lights are very pretty also. ;-)
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said by Rfsjr2 See Profile:
What would you tweak? There would be no more satellite USB device to dance with. ;)


Auhhh yes. You got me on that one! ;) However, the question remains. Will the 6000 be better or worse then the 4000? Especially since it isn't "tweakable."
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said by Dominokat See Profile:
I understand that it isn't "tweakable." Does that mean I can't do a thing with the Dr.TCP tweaks, or what tweaks can't be touched?


What would you tweak? There would be no more satellite USB device to dance with. ;)
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Reading this thread, I understand that it isn't "tweakable." Does that mean I can't do a thing with the Dr.TCP tweaks, or what tweaks can't be touched? How could this effect the performance I have now... better or worse?
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Consumers have wanted an all in one box that is OS platform independent for a long time and the DW4020 and DW6000 are to fill this bill.
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Just the LAN tweaks like the LCCU does for the clients.
It is (they are) a stand alone modem that is connected to the computers over ethernet cables. No USB connection or host DAK software required.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8107849 Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:00:38 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8106827 granny60 : If you go back to the myDirecway website and look at the page, there's a link in the middle that takes you to another page and there's a tab for upgrading the modem. You can fill it out and you will be notified when it's available. What I read was that you only replace the modem and nothing else. You can still use the same dish. It will use ethernet cables.
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said by oldsouth See Profile:
Since the software is on the modem itself, am I correct in thinking that this will be a non-tweakable setup? Will the RWIN and other DrTcp settings on a computer actually be used by the modem? What about the max connections setting in the registry? PetDude?
Good question. I was wondering the same thing. Anyone know ?
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No upgrade price yet.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8106320 Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:58:54 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8106197 BigCreek :
said by Mikofox See Profile:
If you are currently a DIRECWAY Two-way user, you'll soon be able to order an upgrade kit that you can easily install yourself.
Thanks for the link, Mike.

Is it just me, or are they being coy about pricing for the upgrade?
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Thank you for your interest in the DW6000. We will contact you when more information about the DW6000 upgrade is available.

If you are currently a DIRECWAY Two-way user, you'll soon be able to order an upgrade kit that you can easily install yourself.

Be the first to know. Enter your email address below and we'll notify you immediately when the upgrade is available.

quote:
you'll soon be able to order an upgrade kit that you can easily install yourself.


Reads like great news to me! Hope it will apply to the VAR customers as well.

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said by cnhough See Profile:
$600? Is that for the dish and modem, or just the modem?
I believe that is the price if someone currently not a customer calls up and wants to get satellite Internet.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think we have any information yet about upgrades for current DW4000 users. Surely it will be quite a bit less than $600.
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Check it out
»www.hns.com/default.asp?CurrentP···0089.htm
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8085745 Sun, 28 Sep 2003 02:39:35 EDT DW6000 needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8085574 telesky : How is the Dw6000 working out so far.
What are the up and down speeds.
Can you point me to where I can get one
Thanks Email me @skywebjm@yahoo.com]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8085574 Sun, 28 Sep 2003 01:54:00 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8083993 nrune : It seems to me that the dw6000 would work on linux out of the box. If all the software is in the DW box, you should be able to hook it up to just about anything. That does not mean you could tech support for it, not that you would need it.

I would imagine that it would reduce a lot of technical support calls. Heck they should probably just about give it away. ;-)

Uh...does this mean load balancing on the fly with the elimination of phone web setup?
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Actually Modem (VADB) is only available for enterprise customers as a backup and the new satellite being used is G3C (same place as G3R)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8083686 Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:51:38 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8083646 grecord : So my main question is, if this can be done without installing anything into the DW6000 from a Windows PC, or the re-commission thing.

Problem is folks, system will not be commissioned on satellite you're currently pointed to. New SBC will go onto G3C(95w). You'll need a repoint/XP(install).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8083646 Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:43:59 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8067570 yojobilly : I am a directway want to be . I called directway and they told me it would be 1-2 weeks before the 6000 would before I would be able to order it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8067570 Thu, 25 Sep 2003 22:34:15 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8064684 unplugme : Right now it means repointing the dish.
The existing DW4000 users will get an upgrade but the dude from Hughes said early next year- for right now. any certified installer can upgrade by the online certifiaction process- Where are you located- i will send you a Var contact or I can sign you up. send me an email link
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said by unplugme See Profile:
Hey Pet Dude- In Canada there is only one gateway available on G3R


Through which VAR if I may ask?
Is this a restriction from the VAR or Hughes?

Also does it apply to upgrades? Maybe you should have asked them, what's happening with existing DW4000 customers.
Technically speaking, the unit must surely work on the other satellites too.
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Clearly everyone will get to upgrade over a 12 month time frame but those who want it now will have to set up on G3R- no problem with footprint other than northern Canada- slightly bigger dishes.
No confrontation-just real information
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Unplugme]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8064491 Thu, 25 Sep 2003 16:42:31 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8064412 unplugme : Hey Pet Dude- In Canada there is only one gateway available on G3R- got my training and certification in Ottawa Yesterday. Great unit easy, fast, reliable- its a real winner - kiss the 4000 good bye!
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i don't believe hughes will make the mistake of not making the 6000 available on all the birds as it looks like they are setting it up to be the modem of the future

i mean it's a dream come true for tech support people, installers, dealers, and even the end user

my only negative comment on the 6000 is that it's it all in one piece meaning if the transmit side fries you'll have to wait to receive a whole new modem in the mail cuz your installer can't just hot swap the necessary piece

the Satellite Based Commissioning system is a plus for us installers as you don't need the phone anymore you do it right over your crosspoled SRS system

i am patiently awaiting the 6000, our distributor says monday.....
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said by Mikofox See Profile:
If it's true what you are saying, then it will be a bummer for all who are not on G3R already, and may not be able to repoint.
I'm not sure what unplugme See Profile is suggesting here, but I think the message is about "new" installs, not upgrades.

said by Mikofox See Profile:

Also heard that new outdoor hardware is required
You heard wrong.

said by Mikofox See Profile:

One would think they could produce a modem (pre-programmed if need be) to just replace the DW4000, no matter which satellite it is pointed to.
That pretty much describes the plan for the DW6000.
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said by unplugme See Profile:

Confirmed that Canada installs will be on G3R for balance on 2003- no idea about US- kiss the 4000 good-bye this will be what everyone wants. A Real Winner


If it's true what you are saying, then it will be a bummer for all who are not on G3R already, and may not be able to repoint.
I cut down half of the forest around here to get on G11 and if I have to do all this repointing s... again, it would tick me right off.
Also heard that new outdoor hardware is required, which would make this modem less attractive to me than the DW4020.
One would think they could produce a modem (pre-programmed if need be) to just replace the DW4000, no matter which satellite it is pointed to.

My enthusiasm about it is shrinking by the day.
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Canada will have product by mid october. Just attended a training session on Installation- fantastic!
Confirmed that Canada installs will be on G3R for balance on 2003- no idea about US- kiss the 4000 good-bye this will be what everyone wants. has a built in modem 56 K if satellite signal fails, software on board- can be pre commissioned. No phone line for commissioning etc.Available in .74 and .98 models- suggested .98 for SOHO market.A Real Winner
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Unplugme]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8053330 Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:48:12 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8002386 markymark1 : I was told around Christmas of this year and that was from a lincsat rep and they a fairly hight up the food chain!!!!!!!!!! ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8002386 Thu, 18 Sep 2003 17:13:29 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8001625 Apophis : Hi, Im using the old gray one way system, do you know when and if this will be available to residential customers?

Thanks.
-Apophis-]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8001625 Thu, 18 Sep 2003 15:43:56 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7998477 BigCreek :
said by Rfsjr2 See Profile:
Yes, only for the DIRECWAY System hardware. The DIRECWAY System with the DW6000 modem retails for $599.98 (Includes dish, modem and standard installation), and you pay the regular service monthly rate (currently $59.99 per month).
I paid $650 to get DirecwWay (modems, dish, installation). So this would seem to imply that they're pricing it the same as the current DW4000 offering?

But what I want to know is what will the DW6000 cost as a retrofit. And will they require a professional install.

So far, the DW6000 looks like the product they should have built in the beginning. It's encouraging. Maybe Hughes finally has someone on staff that has seen a network before.
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said by Mikofox See Profile:

Someone just put down $685 on eBay for used DW4020 modems.


Ouch! :o

To be fair, my original purchase price was $598.98 thru Pegasus. That was 2+ years ago with first-generation hardware and 12 month contract. Worth every penny. ;)
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said by Rfsjr2 See Profile:
The DIRECWAY System with the DW6000 modem retails for $599.98 (Includes dish, modem and standard installation), and you pay the regular service monthly rate (currently $59.99 per month).
Sounds pretty fair to me. I just might buy a whole new package...NOT! ;)


Ditto That!
Someone just put down $685 on eBay for used DW4020 modems.
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Q: Is there a cost difference between the DW6000 and the DW4000? A: Yes, only for the DIRECWAY System hardware. The DIRECWAY System with the DW6000 modem retails for $599.98 (Includes dish, modem and standard installation), and you pay the regular service monthly rate (currently $59.99 per month). If you choose the $99/$99 Plan, you will be charged a $99.99 up-front fee, with a 15 month contract at $99.99 per month (Includes dish, modem and standard installation). At the end of 15 months the monthly fee reverts back to the regular rate (currently $59.99).

Sounds pretty fair to me. I just might buy a whole new package...NOT! ;)
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said by unplugme See Profile:
there is only one active gateway for the DW6000 at the moment- on G3R.
- Completely false.
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said by unplugme See Profile:
...same as the DW4020 is not available on G11- overcrowded and little or no space to grow. Not rumour those are facts told to me by Direcway and DirecTV folks


Research, research, research!

»DW4020 and G11 a reality....
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said by unplugme See Profile:
...same as the DW4020 is not available on G11- overcrowded and little or no space to grow. Not rumour those are facts told to me by Direcway and DirecTV folks in US....


Sorry, don't buy it!
Spoke to LinCsat the other day and the DW4020 is available on G11 for some time now. Installers, correct me if I am wrong.
I would expect the same to be true for the DW6000. Since the new modem is going to replace both the DW4000 and DW4020 after stock of these run out, one would assume it will be available on all three DW satellites.
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Unplugme]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7993312 Wed, 17 Sep 2003 17:25:55 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7982316 Mikofox : First part may have some truth to it, second is a pile of moose droppings!
Let's don't post these rumors, please!
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Mike | SRS, LinCsat, 1.80m dish, G11/990, signal 87-94, 4.0.3.9 SP-C, BE, W2k Host, Apple Powerbook OS 10.2.6.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7982316 Tue, 16 Sep 2003 14:30:22 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7982267 PetDude :
said by unplugme See Profile:
Hear that DW 6000 only available from New National Distributor Galaxy Broadband. Sounds great- don't know if Lincsat or C-COM will have it- its on G3R
Don't count on any such limitations. Either sources or satellites.
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This shouldn't be locked, because i am not under the beta testing. My info come from the direcway training website.

David
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DiRECWAY Dealer / Installer | DiRECWAY Version 4.0.3.9 B G4R 1250 H RSL 85 WINXP]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7972452 Mon, 15 Sep 2003 13:29:06 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7972230 Mikofox : David,
The post above yours shows the DW6000 from the front, right or am I wrong?
Or does the DW6040 look the same as the DW6000?
Just wonder if someone's mistaken, with the pix title.

The other thing. The moderators seem to be quite on edge about someone breaking the Beta Test NDA, understandably.
I'd love to hear more, but don't want the topics locked, if someone asks the wrong question.

My question to you would be, whether the DW6000 is truly Plug & Play. If it were, and if it came available as a package only from DW in the States, I'd like to get one, even if that means wasting the dish.
I am set up with the DW4000 and my 'dream come true' would be a simple exchange of the modem.
So my main question is, if this can be done without installing anything into the DW6000 from a Windows PC, or the re-commission thing.
I think the exact install procedure would interest the folks around here.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7972230 Mon, 15 Sep 2003 13:00:26 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7971499 installguy : Here is a pic of the back, if you have any questions i can scroll through the training manual on it and see if i can answer them.

David
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7971499 Mon, 15 Sep 2003 11:13:38 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7971395 SeArChEr : Found this pic

DW6040
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7971395 Mon, 15 Sep 2003 10:57:26 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7970894 larry12 : My angle is as follows:

The bleeding edge technology is getting cheaper and cheaper, we have DirecPC, One way satellite systems, Direcway, Two way satellite systems (DW3000, DW4000, DW4020) and soon DW6000.

This is great news for those who want a less cost solution for their broadband woes. Amen

Again the consumer must be knowledgeable on what they buy, but in the long run this technology got cheaper.
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said by LINCSAT See Profile:
I hope direcway or var/lincsat will have a upgrade trade in option. Will this be the new unit that will be shipped with all new kits.


Sitting on needles, eh?
We all hope to see it soon here in Canada of course. But if it's handled like the DW4020, they (LinCsat) may still insist on testing the unit, by the time the first DW6000 show up on eBay. Sorry about the sarcasm, but there is a DW4020 on eBay right now and still not much of a sales pitch for it on the LinCsat website.
Which is good in a way. The lack of information has kept me from wasting my money on a Windows machine or the 'DW4020 Tinkerjob', as neither was an acceptable solution, for me anyway.
I bet a lot more of the 4020 units will go cheap on eBay, after people see the DW6000 released.
So when it shows up in the States, I hope they will have a good supply and that it's truly plug & play.
Yes I'm on needles also and very close to offering a REWARD for the first unit north of 60° or even the border!
Keep the (gold)pan, just sell me the modem!


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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7970011 Mon, 15 Sep 2003 03:17:55 EDT Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7969553 wolfridge : Hi

»[SRS] DW6000 is coming
and
»DW6000 Release Timeframe

Luck Vic]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7969553 Mon, 15 Sep 2003 01:07:37 EDT [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7969037 LINCSAT : Anybody know when this unit will be avaiable to purchase. Looking for a picture of it, is it just one modem with rx and tx together. I hope direcway or var/lincsat will have a upgrade trade in option. Will this be the new unit that will be shipped with all new kits.

DCXFORDGM]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7969037 Sun, 14 Sep 2003 23:45:51 EDT