Metallica Bad in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r7018999 en Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:16:40 EDT Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:16:40 EDT Re: Metallica Bad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7035790 jj nobody : Thanks for making such a rash generalization, jackass]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7035790 Thu, 05 Jun 2003 06:05:48 EDT Re: Metallica Bad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7028710 SRFireside :
said by pnh102 See Profile:
Either way, lots of people would have copies of their music. I just think it was hypocritical for Metallica to be OK with one form of copyright infringement but not the other, that's all.
For once we agree.... partially. I am still no convinced it's copyright infringement. I have read copyright law time and time again and it doesn't show any solid indication that sharing music, that doesn't generate revenue or profit, is illegal. When you start selling it or making money from it is where you have the problem. That's what got Napster blasted. Remember much of what the RIAA says is what they claim is law. Even with the NET act sharing music is still legal as long as it's under a certain monetary value.

As far as Metallica is concerned they endorsed distribution of their music as long as it's not for profit. Even though copyright law pretty much says the same thing they reinforced it. Lars going back on that, most likely caught up in either greed or propaganda put forth by the RIAA, pretty much throws his entire claim out the window.
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said by metalgirl See Profile:
Please...I'm 40yrs old...married...own my home... and have kids...
I'm not your "run of the mill" headbanger....
I haven't listened to the radio in years ;)

Actually, that sounds like every headbanger I know these days. The only CDs I've bought in ten years is the new FOZZY CDs.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7027503 Wed, 04 Jun 2003 11:13:40 EDT Re: Metallica Bad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7026574 pnh102 :
said by Jaime See Profile:
Trading with your buddies and family is a bit different than trading with hundreds of thousands of people, don't you think?

I'm not debating that the act of sharing copyrighted works without the consent of the copyright owner is illegal. There is no question that this is illegal. The means by which the material is shared and the number of people you share with also doesn't change the fact that the act of sharing in itself is illegal.

Metallica's approach, though, encouraged people to share their stuff with their friends, who would then share it with their friends, and so on and so forth. If someone did that with Napster, the end result would be similar to what would happen if thousands of people copied Metallica's stuff and distributed it to all their friends by hand. Either way, lots of people would have copies of their music. I just think it was hypocritical for Metallica to be OK with one form of copyright infringement but not the other, that's all.
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I'm not your "run of the mill" headbanger....
I haven't listened to the radio in years ;)
Why does Metallica say their new album is going to be like the "old days"?
IMO... they knew they sold out and want to try to get the former fans back... this Speakeasy stuff is all about publicity for them...
Thanks but no thanks...I'll keep my money;)

MG
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said by Me just a few inches above:
B)Agreed to a point, yes some die hard file sharers hated that they told the truth. While other more casual filesharers, like me, really weren't bothered that they spoke their mind about this.

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Simply put Melodica shot themselves in the a$$.
If the RIAA and Metallica was a front for them then as now...would EMBRACE technology and quit trying to milk the public for every penny they would probably be making their "PROSPECTED" income.
And by the way p2p is for the i-net illiterate.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7019346 Tue, 03 Jun 2003 15:13:19 EDT Re: Metallica Bad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7019320 Cougar311 : Yea I remember the first time I heard them, I got a Copied Cassette tape of Master of Puppets and I must have listed to that thing straight for 10 days. I was like WOW! This band rocks and after that i bought every Tape and CD and went to all of their Shows and then when the Napster thing came about and they bitched, I lost faith in them... Oh well mayby they can grab the new Generation, which is generation Z right? :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7019320 Tue, 03 Jun 2003 15:10:31 EDT Re: Metallica Bad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7019314 Jaime : Trading with your buddies and family is a bit different than trading with hundreds of thousands of people, don't you think?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7019314 Tue, 03 Jun 2003 15:10:02 EDT Re: Metallica Bad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7019258 Speedy8 :
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I will always have a right to use MY PURCHASED music however I choose.Be it compress it...put it on TAPE or stomp on it in my driveway...FAIR USE..I paid I will do WHATEVER I WANT with it.


What does that have to do with anything? Sending songs to other people for free isn't fair use if that's what you were referring to. If not, then WTF were you referring to?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7019258 Tue, 03 Jun 2003 15:04:18 EDT Re: Metallica Bad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7019224 Speedy8 : Yeah I can see both sides of the argument, and I'm not on either side. What they did doesn't bother me, since it doesn't affect me at all, and sharing the files after all IS illegal. But on the other side it's not like I don't download songs, but I DO in fact own all of Metallica's albums. I also own 12 CDs worth of bootleg concerts in MP3 format, but metallica actually doesn't mind bootlegs. Not to say I'll buy the new album if I don't like it, but if I do I just might, you get a lot of stuff for the $13 I've seen it being preordered for.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7019224 Tue, 03 Jun 2003 15:01:16 EDT Re: Metallica Bad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7019206 metalgirl : Archivis..you hit it right on the head....
F*ck Metallica!
The "Real Headbangers" don't even want their lame ass commercialized crap anyway.
I wouldn't even waste my time illegally D/L'ing their crap.

MG
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said by Nightfall See Profile:
Seems that song writers and musicians that stand up and publically say they hate file trading are blacklisted.

You're right about this... and I'll respect any artist that doesn't want their stuff traded... except for Metallica, who, when they were nothing back in the early 80s, wanted people to trade copies of their music... just so that other people would find out about them and buy the albums and come to their shows. I think its somewhat contradictory for a band that made its money by doing this to whine when people still trade their tracks online.

Besides... Metallica is just like every other 80s act trying to make a comeback... they're all washed up and need to retire.
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Metallica started ..nay LARS started a war...Jason Newstead left BECAUSE of Lars' HOLY war. They are simply WASHED up.Their funds were shrinking(not unlike Lars' HAIRLINE)and saw NAPSTER as the cause of their woes.
I will always have a right to use MY PURCHASED music however I choose.Be it compress it...put it on TAPE or stomp on it in my driveway...FAIR USE..I paid I will do WHATEVER I WANT with it.
No I haven't forgotten Metallica's internet silliness and No I won't be watching....
And it figures they would team up with a LAMER ISP like SNEAKSLEAZY who sold out a while back as well...
lol just my 2 cents]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7019182 Tue, 03 Jun 2003 14:58:12 EDT Re: Metallica Bad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7019112 Jaime : A) Doubtful since I'm sure there will be millions of their new album sold.
B)Agreed to a point, yes some die hard file sharers hated that they told the truth. While other more casual filesharers, like me, really weren't bothered that they spoke their mind about this.
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said by Jaime See Profile:
Pissed you off? Didn't like that they wanted people to not take their songs for free?

I agree. Seems that song writers and musicians that stand up and publically say they hate file trading are blacklisted. Kinda stupid if you ask me being as that the people downloading music were stealing from them. Kinda like the fox blacklisting the farmer while it was stealing his chickens. ;)
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That's all bridge under the water. We can be friends again (can i have your money now?), right?
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