question about downloading and uploading in Inside Insight http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r6857742 en Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:23:56 EDT Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:23:56 EDT Re: Sorry, IGGY... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6977453 IGGY : As I clearly stated above I could have missed it - which I did.

ii. post, store, transmit or disseminate any information or material which a reasonable person could deem to be objectionable, offensive, indecent, pornographic, harassing, threatening, embarrassing, distressing, vulgar, hateful, racially or ethnically offensive or otherwise inappropriate, regardless of whether such material or its dissemination is unlawful;

It would be interesting to see what there reason for such a clause is? Also I could see a few 1st amendment fights starting if they ever tried to truly enforce that.

"which a reasonable person could deem to be"

That's always a statement I love when I see it - which is often. How do they expect to set that standard considering it very well could change from community to community?
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said by InsightBB AUP:
ii. post, store, transmit or disseminate any information or material which a reasonable person could deem to be objectionable, offensive, indecent, pornographic [emphasis added], harassing, threatening, embarrassing, distressing, vulgar, hateful, racially or ethnically offensive or otherwise inappropriate, regardless of whether such material or its dissemination is unlawful;
So, downloading the stuff may be "OK," but uploading it is "bad." Heck, even downloading it may be "bad," since it could fall under the "store" part of the provision.
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[text was edited by author 2003-05-29 17:59:25]]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6977354 Thu, 29 May 2003 17:58:50 EDT Re: question about downloading and uploading http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6976934 IGGY : »www.insightbb.com/terms_conditions/#one

Maybe I missed it - but I see nothing related to not being able download or upload adult content within the conditions of use.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6976934 Thu, 29 May 2003 17:14:10 EDT Re: question about downloading and uploading http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6972704 Rare1 : If you read their agreement, Insight allows any third party software be it p2p or otherwise. Now what Insight does forbid is sharing of pornographic or copyrighted material through the use of p2p clients or by other means transmitted using InsightBB.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6972704 Thu, 29 May 2003 07:38:37 EDT Re: question about downloading and uploading http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6969938 TheOnlyOne : Does Insight allow p2p programs like Kazaa Lite? I had one of there tech guys come out and on his laptop he had Kazaa or Kazaa Lite icon down in the quick launch.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6969938 Wed, 28 May 2003 22:23:45 EDT Re: question about downloading and uploading http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6965168 Rick :
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this is a pic of 11 days of downloading.would this be considered high by an isp.


Just doing some quick math, that's about 11gigs for 11 days which would be about 30gigs for the month if your usage was generally that.

RoadRunner has just started capping users in a few areas
and set the limit at 15gigs a month.

So, by that standard, if you were on RR and in an area that's affected, you'd be over their limits by 2x's as much and would have to move to the higher tiered program, which allows for 40gigs a month at prices ranging from 79~99 per month, depending on the area.

It may be notable though that even though some areas of RR have started this, Insight RR in Columbus hasn't.
As of yet anyway.

RR also has a LOT more users than Insight BB does though so maybe this is a bigger problem for them and something that won't happen on Insight BB.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6958153 Tue, 27 May 2003 17:46:51 EDT Re: question about downloading and uploading http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6903932 usk546 : the firewall is built into the linksys befsx 41 router. i have the newest firmware.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6903932 Wed, 21 May 2003 18:25:38 EDT Re: question about downloading and uploading http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6903913 Rare1 : I too was getting over the 3000MB download mark before 5-16 and now get 2800's. Not that I'm whining. With 1.5MB/128 I was lucky to get 1.2MB down and 64 up. I like to play UT 2003 online. I ping 15-20 in the midwest and 20-30 on the east coast and 40-50 ms on the west coast servers without any latency which I find astounding.

I have my Arris Touchstone plugged into my WAN port on my SMC Barricade and I have two PC's running through the router. It has no bearing on my speeds. Both PC's get the same 2800/124 with both PC's online at the same time, nor does having both PC's online at the same time affect my gaming ping. My router setup in through NIC cards using CAT 5 cables.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6903913 Wed, 21 May 2003 18:23:23 EDT Re: question about downloading and uploading http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6903122 IGGY : What software firewall are you using? A setup that has a router or is networked is always a pain to troubleshoot. But it gets done every day with good results. It's not my strong suit but I can be of some help. If your running ZoneAlarm ( free,+(plus) or Pro ) I can be of even more help in certain respects. I run ZAP and see no higher speeds with it off than I do with it on. But than again I don't have a router in the mix either.

An off topic note -

I'll be offline for a little while. Installing a new power supply - my 1st stab at this - should be fun. And I have a few offline things I need to tend to this evening.

Update

The new power supply is in & knock on wood seems to be working. Now in a few weeks I'll replace the heat seek fan.
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[text was edited by author 2003-05-21 17:53:08]]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6903122 Wed, 21 May 2003 17:04:36 EDT Re: question about downloading and uploading http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6902520 usk546 : if i disable the firewall the speeds go back to normal.but when i turn the firewall back on speeds drop in half.so it's the firewall possibly causing the problem.im gonna try a different modem just to be sure.if it does it with every modem ill just have to take speed loss for the extra security.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6902520 Wed, 21 May 2003 16:08:50 EDT Re: question about downloading and uploading http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6902364 IGGY : Well if they tech just stated new packages are on the way. But didn't give any details as to what packages might be offered - then they didn't really leak anything. I've yet to see or be given any information in regards to new packages. Hopefully that info will drop in my lap soon.

As for the speeds with the router in the mix. It's most likely a router/setup issue not the modem causing the problem.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6902220 Wed, 21 May 2003 15:43:40 EDT Re: question about downloading and uploading http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6902095 IGGY : My most recent test
2003-05-16 08:31:25 Speed test (ec) 2774/389 kbps
2003-05-16 08:30:34 Speed test (la) 2823/360 kbps
2003-05-13 14:51:03 Speed test (ec) 3115/359 kbps

You can see that after the 16th which is when the 1.1 upgrade was supposed to start my speeds went down a bit. If there getting strict about the cap why is it I see users getting 3200 to 3900kpbs in some areas. I'd like some of that considering it's almost 1000kpbs more. I just noticed Insight has dropped to #13 on this list »/archive they used to rate much higher.

I'm doing a rather large download at the moment but did a speed test any way. This is why you shouldn't use your connection while doing a test ( LOL ):D
»/speedtests/16···53545422
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[text was edited by author 2003-05-21 14:30:40]]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6901405 Wed, 21 May 2003 14:26:56 EDT Re: question about downloading and uploading http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6901334 IGGY : Dropped about 200 to 300kpbs - yes. Not anything to get to uptight about. But when your used to getting right at or above your cap pretty much 24/7 it is sort of a pain. Not that it's going to make that big of difference in my downloads. It's just the principal of it.
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"Important help for images and attachments:

images bigger than 640 will be auto-thumbnailed

images will be laid out in a grid up to 3 columns wide

DO NOT INLINE TO WIDE EXTERNAL IMAGES

WE HATE BMP - BMP files are too big. Prefer GIF/JPG/PNG.

Attachments may be checked - post may NOT appear immediately!

Large files may fail to upload within 30 second limit - ZIP them Typing '»..' auto-creates a link."

As for the 2800kpbs - I've not seen a speed test go above that since DOCSIS 1.1 was announced and started being put in place. I'd previously averaged right at my cap of 3000 or above - at almost all times of day.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6899402 Wed, 21 May 2003 10:09:11 EDT Re: question about downloading and uploading http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6898728 usk546 : the ftp i was downloading from was real slow must have been packed.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6898728 Wed, 21 May 2003 08:14:10 EDT Re: question about downloading and uploading http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6898505 Rare1 : Bandwidth limits from Insight if you ask me would be an unfair policy since it is not stated anywhere when you are going through the ordering/installation process.

Now those satellie companies scream "F.A.P" on their web sites, so I at least the consumer is warned on bandwidth limitations.

As for the speed test here is the one I just did to linkline in Los Angeles »/speedtests/28···53515223

Didn't hit 3000/128 but close enough for me. Now if I was getting 600/0 I would be throwing fits!..hah]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6898505 Wed, 21 May 2003 07:13:12 EDT Re: question about downloading and uploading http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6893319 usk546 : downloading a little slow
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6893319 Tue, 20 May 2003 17:21:34 EDT Re: question about downloading and uploading http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6890279 IGGY : Well that download result isn't pretty that's for sure. The 0 on the upload does happen at times. I thought I'd seen an explanation as to why in the past. But can't find it at the moment. There may just be something wrong with the test or the test server might just be congested. Always try MULTIPLE test - especially when you see results out of the normal. But seeing 601 on a 3000/128 connection is something you don't want to see consistently on any speed test.
It would probably be best to start another thread on this - so others can see the question. But there is nothing wrong with hijacking your own thread. You started the thread you can change the direction of it in midstream. There is nothing wrong with that.

Since I can't edit my previous post now - wish that was 48 hours instead of 24.

This

"There have many months where I've done a good amount of uploading and downloading." should have been

There have been many months where I've done a good amount of uploading and downloading.
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[text was edited by author 2003-05-20 11:43:20]]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6890279 Tue, 20 May 2003 11:39:43 EDT Re: question about downloading and uploading http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6889498 usk546 : this is off the topic but i didnt want to start a new thread.has anyone ever seen this result on the speed test »/speedtests/60···53438215 if so what causes that? thanks usk]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6889498 Tue, 20 May 2003 09:45:22 EDT Re: question about downloading and uploading http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6873422 IGGY : Only monthly limits I've ever seen discussed have been in relation to news groups. »Insight BB Forum FAQ »Are there restrictions for InsightBB newsgroups?
And yes I'm blowing my own horn again but a lot of this stuff is covered in my bookmarks for Insight and in the FAQ on this site.

Do keep in mind I'm sure there are unofficial limits. And if your at those limits on a regular basis you may in fact get flagged for investigation etc. I think in the time I've been in this forum I've seen maybe 1 user post that they had received a warning from Insight. I know it's been awhile since I've read that post - so I couldn't direct anyone to it - yes I forgot to bookmark it.
I would say currently Insight is one of the few ISP that are fairly liberal with there policy towards usage. I think there more worried about upload usage than download honestly. Let's hope with the new upgrades they don't decided to become a little more strict with there usage policy. I have reservations about this type of thing for many reasons.
There have many months where I've done a good amount of uploading and downloading. Especially downloading and I've never been called to task for it knock on wood. So from my usage ( which is fairly heavy at times ) I'd say you'd have to try very hard to raise red flags from Insight. This is of course just my experience and opinion. User experience may vary.
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why does the stuff underneath my name just show up every now and then and not on all my posts?
Your signature will show up only if your post is at least three lines long, or some other minimum length. You can make some test posts in the /dev/null forum - »/dev/null - to see how that would work.
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said by usk546 See Profile:
i use p2p software from time to time to download stuff.i download maybe 200-300mb a month and upload maybe 100 mb.does insight have a monthly limit on upload and download usage?if so is what i do monthly bad enough to get my service cut off for over using my connection.thanks for the help


AFAIK, atleast in northern kentucky, Insight is NOT setting monthly limits as of this post. I use kazaa lite, and leave my machine connected to mIRC 24 hours a day. :) For the second question, I think that info only shows up the first time you post in a topic.

whyer]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6858434 Fri, 16 May 2003 13:00:56 EDT Re: question about downloading and uploading http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6858313 usk546 : this is sort of off this topic but why does the stuff underneath my name just show up every now and then and not on all my posts?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6858313 Fri, 16 May 2003 12:45:31 EDT question about downloading and uploading http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6857742 usk546 : i use p2p software from time to time to download stuff.i download maybe 200-300mb a month and upload maybe 100 mb.does insight have a monthly limit on upload and download usage?if so is what i do monthly bad enough to get my service cut off for over using my connection.thanks for the help]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6857742 Fri, 16 May 2003 11:29:49 EDT