 IowaCowboyWant to go back to IowaPremium join:2010-10-16 Springfield, MA Reviews:
·Comcast
·Verizon Broadban..
| Bundling is cheaper. With Verizon charging $65 for home phone (and does not include voice mail as the CO is not equipped), its cheaper to bundle the home phone with Comcast than it is to buy the services separately.
I need to maintain a home phone for safety reasons as the 911 call centers cannot locate a cell phone. You have to verbally tell 911 the location of the emergency (try doing that while having a severe asthma attack or in the middle of a home invasion). Cell phones may be able to transmit location to 911 but not verbally telling the dispatcher the location will delay response during a potentially life threatening situation. 911 calls from a cell phone don't even go to the responding jurisdiction, they go to state police dispatch and they transfer the call to the responding jurisdiction where a landline goes straight to the responding jurisdiction complete with exact location info.
My modem has a battery and I got it plugged into a UPS. Time Warner does not provide batteries for their modems. -- Romney-Ryan and Scott Brown are the Right Choice as they are Hope & Change you can count on. |
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 | The TimeWarner modem that I had (and replaced) both came with batteries. |
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 | reply to IowaCowboy What IF? What If? What If? Are you EVER 100% secure, no matter what? Short answer... NO. When it's YOUR time... it's YOUR time. What did people do when they actually had no cell phones? What did people do before they had no phones period? WOW....most found a way to survive... The one's that didn't we don't miss much... Darwin rules! -- Isn't it sad that those that raise their right hand and swear "to support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America" are usually the ones most likely to trash it. |
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 | I for one LOVE TWC Phone service! In addition the conveyance of Caller ID on TV has helped some people that I know with limited mobility because they can see who is calling, without having to struggle to move around and get to the phone. I also love the high-speed Internet service from TWC. It's the mediocre program guide that is the worst part of their service.
I always believed that TWC included the price of the monthly modem with the rest of the package, if you were on a bundle deal. We had to initially pay $11 more to get a wireless router from TWC, but when we got our own router, we dropped the $11 fee. For our area, the cost was always a part of the discounted bundle.
Is this $4.00 rental fee for everyone? Or just selected markets?
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 jig join:2001-01-05 Hacienda Heights, CA | reply to en103 same here - our battery backup for the VOIP/data modem is built into the modem itself, and lasts at least 4 hours.
TW's phone service is actually great. no complaints. but, this is the first i've heard of the $4 hike. i'm about done with random price hikes. plus, we're on a bundled deal that i think protects us from such hikes for another year or so. adelphia had the family that was bilking the company out of 100s of millions... what the hell is going on with TW? there hasn't been an appreciable increase in service in years - certainly nothing i'd call a competitive advantage over the other providers (we're just locked in because the other providers don't exist in our area).
the reason why we moved to TW phone was because ATT/Verizon were charging us about $60 minimum just to have the phone active and not be limited to our own area code. it was a "we don't want to service you anymore" charge - i think the deal is that they want to get out from under all the old franchise contracts with the city that require them to share line access and provide low-income-tier service. all the fiber stuff is on a separate set of contracts and the FCC doesn't require fiber services to share. goodbye POTS.
anyway, this $4 is another sharp pinch, but i think we're still winning over most of the other landline services available.
aside from all that, the TW VOIP service uses bandwidth separate from the data bandwidth. if we purchased a standalone VOIP service, then i'd have to carve out some bandwidth to make sure the new system would always work. it's doable, but i'd rather not.
for us, i think the choice is solely between TW VOIP + cell or just relying completely on our cell phones. there are 911 and security system monitoring issues with relying on cell phones, so i think we'll have to stay with the VOIP. i'm certain the wife feels that way.
if we had a choice to go with FTTH, we'd do that in a second.
summary - if we are charged the $4 fee, then i'll call them up and ask why that isn't part of our bundle deal. if they push the hike through anyway, then i may threaten to remove all our TV portion of the cable bill and see if they'll cut us a deal. i'm on the fence. i like some TV live, but our whole family probably watches too much TV as it is. i haven't priced out SAT-TV in a while... but last time i checked, our bundled price/service wasn't going to be beat by mixing and matching SAT-TV and CABLE-DATA-VOICE.
my guess is that the reason why the hike is $4 and not $5 is because $5 would put the price difference within about $5 of mixing and matching. if i want the three services, i don't think i'll find a cheaper rout. let me know if i'm wrong. -- Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam. |
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 antdudeA Ninja AntPremium,VIP join:2001-03-25 United State kudos:4 Reviews:
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to en103 said by en103:The TimeWarner modem that I had (and replaced) both came with batteries. So did my parents' Internet+Phone modem. How long do these batteries usually last without power and have to be replaced? I noticed Internet still worked without power too.  |
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 | reply to en103 Not all areas provide batteries as they generally do not work when you lose power. |
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 Mr Matt join:2008-01-29 Eustis, FL kudos:1 | reply to jig The problem is the sense of entitlement by the wire line carriers. Being a duopoly they take the position that: "We are not Burger King we are the phone company or cable company so take it our way or go F$%K yourself." |
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 | reply to IowaCowboy E911 PSAP ( Public Safety Access Points ) can track cell phones. They have programs on servers and CAD dispatch systems that can even tell the speed you traveling if you in a car. I know I install and work on these systems. |
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 | reply to IowaCowboy Time Warner DOES provide batteries for the modems: standard 4 hour battery is free of charge; larger capacity has to be bought from manufacturer.
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 IowaCowboyWant to go back to IowaPremium join:2010-10-16 Springfield, MA Reviews:
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·Verizon Broadban..
| reply to exRolmman said by exRolmman:E911 PSAP ( Public Safety Access Points ) can track cell phones. They have programs on servers and CAD dispatch systems that can even tell the speed you traveling if you in a car. I know I install and work on these systems. Then why do 911 calls from a cell phone go to the State Police barracks in Northampton (MA) instead of straight to Springfield like they do with a landline. And with GPS, in the case of a Duplex (like I live in) or an apartment building, they really cannot exactly pinpoint which unit the call is originating from. My duplex is split down the center but this would be dangerous with an upstairs/downstairs unit.
In my little world, I would not rely on a cell phone as a primary means of emergency communication. They are good for emergencies on the go (car accidents, hiking/camping emergencies, etc) but are not reliable for most household emergencies (child not breathing, fires, home invasion, etc). Cell phones do make a good backup though. -- Romney-Ryan and Scott Brown are the Right Choice as they are Hope & Change you can count on. |
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| That is how the cell carrier has it set up or they are routed by default. You may want to talk to Verizon Wireless about that or the State since that is an OLD way of transferring calls for a lot of areas.
And if you're afraid of a home robbery you should have an alarm system and turned on when you're in the house. And yes, you can have a wireless system that uses Cellular Networks and not a landline. ADT makes them and plenty of other companies. And they can obtain your address the same as Sprint's AiRave device with GPS. Also how is a cell phone not reliable for a fire? If you have a fire your main concern isn't to call 911 right away, but to get everyone out of the house and then call. |
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| reply to exRolmman Not all systems are up to date with this technology/servers. It's a case by case issue as the laws to require those systems to be updated were later given up on. Still there are more counties in the US that do NOT have those systems than do. A lot of it comes down to $$$$ to even purchase the new updates, but yet they have caller ID. And that's about it. If they need to trace your cell phone they can by going to the cell carrier but even that takes a little bit. I have lived in several large cities before and needed 911 called via cell phone and no location, only phone number shows up. Even the State of Ohio Trooper call centers do NOT have the GPS for cell phones installed and now we have a state wide cell number to call into from a cell. |
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 PathfinderDazed ConfusedPremium join:2000-03-26 Mount Vernon, NY Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to JimMcCoy said by JimMcCoy:Time Warner DOES provide batteries for the modems: standard 4 hour battery is free of charge; larger capacity has to be bought from manufacturer.
Not here they don't. I have an Arris 602 No battery. My daughter in NYC has the same, also no battery. |
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 Dude111An Awesome DudePremium join:2003-08-04 USA kudos:11 | reply to IowaCowboy
quote: Bundling is cheaper.
Yes buddy you are 100% correct... BUT THE PHONE SERVICE THEY OFFER IS GARBAGE!!!!
I would love getting a traditional landline again,much better service!! |
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 SeleniaI love DebianPremium join:2006-09-22 Lanesboro, MA kudos:2 | reply to TBusiness
Re: Bundling is cheaper. said by TBusiness:That is how the cell carrier has it set up or they are routed by default. You may want to talk to Verizon Wireless about that or the State since that is an OLD way of transferring calls for a lot of areas.
And if you're afraid of a home robbery you should have an alarm system and turned on when you're in the house. And yes, you can have a wireless system that uses Cellular Networks and not a landline. ADT makes them and plenty of other companies. And they can obtain your address the same as Sprint's AiRave device with GPS. Also how is a cell phone not reliable for a fire? If you have a fire your main concern isn't to call 911 right away, but to get everyone out of the house and then call. Must just be the police here. I get the same thing on AT&T Wireless. They claimed to know my location in a car accident and kept insisting I was in Pittsfield, despite repeatedly telling them I was on the Hinsdale side by several miles. They call back and say they sent Pittsfield and can't find me, mind you, it's the middle of winter and my car was killed with the windows blown out. Luckily, the lady that hit me decides to let us in her truck. I start screaming at them, calling them idiots because I gave them my exact location 5 times but they would not believe me. So they finally agree to send Hinsdale and they find me almost immediately, after wasting over an hour with sending Pittsfield in the freezing cold, with me and my passenger having significant injury.
So cell phones are great for making voice connections in such situations, but I would not trust the technology the police use to track them as far as I can throw it!! We would have had the much needed attention from both police and EMTs much quicker if it had not existed and they just took my word for it. Funny thing is, I polled my GPS after their insisting and it spot-on located me in Hinsdale. -- A fool thinks they know everything.
A wise person knows enough to know they couldn't possibly know everything.
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