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Joe12345678

join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL

also need to look at mirroring / outlet fees as well

also need to look at mirroring / outlet fees as well.

service Electric Cablevision let's you pay a One-Time Lease fee for a DTA and they let you BUY CABLE cards as well.

shaw cable and other canada systems yet you buy the or rent to own with no outlet or mirroring fees per box.


Steve Mehs
Gun Control Is Using A Steady Hand
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join:2005-07-16

said by Joe12345678:

also need to look at mirroring / outlet fees as well.

service Electric Cablevision let's you pay a One-Time Lease fee for a DTA and they let you BUY CABLE cards as well.

shaw cable and other canada systems yet you buy the or rent to own with no outlet or mirroring fees per box.

Yes, they need to look at mirroring fees on satellite services as well, like your precious DirecTV.

With cable it is very simple, you pay $7-10 per month per every digital cable terminal you have on your account. There are no upfront costs, you do not own the hardware and if you cancel service the hardware must be returned. With DirecTV, I pay an additional outlet charge for having two boxes, I also had the privilege of paying $100 for the HR34 and $200 for the HR24, that’s $300 in upfront costs plus the additional outlet fee, for hardware that I do not own that must be returned to them when I cancel, that I cannot resell and recoup some of my costs. If one of my boxes dies, that’s a charge, unless you pay for the DirecTV rip off service protection plan. If one of my cable terminals dies, I hop in my car and exchange at the office at no additional charge.
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osravens

join:2011-01-26
Cumberland, MD

And don't you have a monthly fee on top of that for each box?

That reminds me why I stick with cable even though we're light years behind in HD channels. Not all of us can be spoiled with the kind of lineups Time Warner Cable has in many areas, unfortunately.



ilikeme
I live in a van down by the river.
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join:2002-08-27
Denton, TX
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reply to Steve Mehs

said by Steve Mehs:

said by Joe12345678:

also need to look at mirroring / outlet fees as well.

service Electric Cablevision let's you pay a One-Time Lease fee for a DTA and they let you BUY CABLE cards as well.

shaw cable and other canada systems yet you buy the or rent to own with no outlet or mirroring fees per box.

Yes, they need to look at mirroring fees on satellite services as well, like your precious DirecTV.

With cable it is very simple, you pay $7-10 per month per every digital cable terminal you have on your account. There are no upfront costs, you do not own the hardware and if you cancel service the hardware must be returned. With DirecTV, I pay an additional outlet charge for having two boxes, I also had the privilege of paying $100 for the HR34 and $200 for the HR24, that’s $300 in upfront costs plus the additional outlet fee, for hardware that I do not own that must be returned to them when I cancel, that I cannot resell and recoup some of my costs. If one of my boxes dies, that’s a charge, unless you pay for the DirecTV rip off service protection plan. If one of my cable terminals dies, I hop in my car and exchange at the office at no additional charge.

At my other house we have DirecTV and all the basic HD receivers were free. We had to pay a one time fee of $100 for the HR34 HDDVR, but they do not charge an additional fee per month for it being a DVR, unlike cable.
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Joe12345678

join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL

reply to Steve Mehs
cable systems have a protection plan as well and I think there may be a fee to have some one come over to swap the box out.

On directv with out a plan you pay a fee to cover shipping out a new box to you / send the old one back.


osravens

join:2011-01-26
Cumberland, MD

If you need a tech to hook up a cable box, then you're an idiot and deserve to be robbed blind.



Steve Mehs
Gun Control Is Using A Steady Hand
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join:2005-07-16

reply to ilikeme
DirecTV charges an $8 DVR service charge. This charge covers all of the DVRs on the account. Typically with cable you pay a DVR Fee on each box.

The first receiver on the account does not get charged a lease or mirror fee, well it actually does but is credited off to make it look like your saving money. I pay $6 extra for having a second box. Plus an $8 DVR service change and another $3 for Whole House DVR service. I’m not sure what it costs with cable as $230 gets me everything and prices are not broken down. But that includes 2 whole house HD DVRs. My point is cable does not charge you to an upfront fee to rent their equipment and neither should satellite. But oh well, I was duped into paying $300 for these shoddy DVRs. Live and learn I guess

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cable systems have a protection plan as well and I think there may be a fee to have some one come over to swap the box out.
Never heard of that. But since you typically spin thing sin a pro DirecTV way, I wouldn’t doubt if you’re making it up. I have Time Warner and have never been charged an install fee or any type of fee for having a tech come out for any reason, including an equipment swap. The only fee I ever paid for anything was the $15 or whatever activation for digital phone to have my number ported. DirecTV tries to push their protection plan on me every chance they get. If anything goes wrong with their crap, I'll just cancel the service and pay the ETF.
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For the future of our nation, we must unite and vote out the terrorist known as Hussein Obama. Come November 6 2012 we must remove the socialist pig out of office and get our country back on the RIGHT track.

osravens

join:2011-01-26
Cumberland, MD

Atlantic Broadband does have a protection plan that you'd have to pay of $6/month to avoid any fees for having techs come out.

They typically have installation fees too unless you do something, both times I've had them come it's either by taking the protection plan and agreeing to pay it for 6 months (a net savings of nothing, really) or doing auto-pay (which reduced it, but didn't eliminate it).



PaulHikeS2

join:2003-03-06
Manchester, NH

reply to Steve Mehs

said by Steve Mehs:

I also had the privilege of paying $100 for the HR34 and $200 for the HR24, that’s $300 in upfront costs plus the additional outlet fee, for hardware that I do not own that must be returned to them when I cancel, that I cannot resell and recoup some of my costs.

You paid $300.00 for equipment that you don't own? Is this standard? If so, why would someone get their service?
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Steve Mehs
Gun Control Is Using A Steady Hand
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join:2005-07-16

Yes, paying an upfront fee for leased equipment is standard for DirecTV with DVRs and has been for sometime. I believe the very basic non DVRs are free. The only reason got DirecTV was on Jan 1 2012 Time Warner temporarily pulled MSG. I cannot live without my Sabres hockey. So I had DirecTV installed. I kept cable due to their vastly superior HD line up. I was going to cancel DirecTV when MSG returned, but decided to give NFL Sunday Ticket a try this year. As much as DirecTV irks me, NFL ST is a stellar product. And while I don’t agree at all with what DirecTV does regarding equipment, I can’t get NFL Sunday Ticket anywhere else.
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For the future of our nation, we must unite and vote out the terrorist known as Hussein Obama. Come November 6 2012 we must remove the socialist pig out of office and get our country back on the RIGHT track.



hottboiinnc1

@buckeyecom.net

You do NOT have to pay upfront for DirecTV. You get free equipment. Maybe when you signed up you had to pay- Like if you bundle with AT&T, yes YOU PAY up front. Directly through DirecTV no up front fees. Dish network requires you to pay up front though. But again NOT DirecTV.



Steve Mehs
Gun Control Is Using A Steady Hand
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join:2005-07-16

Incorrect. Here's a screen cap of my order. I signed up via DirecTVs website on Jan 1 2012. I originally ordered an HR34 along with an H25. As you can see I was charged $100 for the HR34 and the H25 was free. A month later I replaced the H25 with the HR24 and was charged $200 for that.


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For the future of our nation, we must unite and vote out the terrorist known as Hussein Obama. Come November 6 2012 we must remove the socialist pig out of office and get our country back on the RIGHT track.



hottboiinnc1

@buckeyecom.net

You got the wrong package/promos. I just signed up with them again and NOTHING.



hottboiinnc1

@buckeyecom.net

reply to Steve Mehs

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Here is your proof they don't charge for equipment unless you ordered more of the "free" boxes than you were permitted.

Beezel

join:2008-12-15
Las Vegas, NV

The Genie is a new receiver they just came out with. The HR34 was the top of the line before the Genie. You paid $100 for it and Direct subsidized $300 for the rest of the cost of it. It has the same features of the Genie except you need a plain HD or SD box in every room you want to see recorded shows from the HR34. Don't know if the Genie can hook up to your home network with wireless Direct Connect or Ethernet. The HR34 does both and you can watch the shows recorded on it on your PC also. I don't understand why some people get the HR34 and get another DVR for another room. Since it can do five channels at once also.



Steve Mehs
Gun Control Is Using A Steady Hand
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join:2005-07-16

The Genie and the HR34 are the same exact thing! DirecTV is just marketing under a real name now to better compete with Dish and the Hopper. It’s just a rebranding. Like a few years ago when Ford changed the name of the Lincoln Zephyr to the Lincoln MKZ and GM changed the name of the Cadillac Deville to the DTS. The domestic brands rebranded their products to match the alphanumeric naming scheme of the imports like Lexus and Mercedes for marketing purposes. And besides for those of us that do the CE beta downloads, the Genie software features have been around for a while now.

As to why have both the HR23 and another DVR, well to view independent channels on two different TVs. I don't have one of the three Samsung TVs compatible with DirecTVs networking and the C31 client boxes just came out a few weeks ago. I have absolutely no desire to watch TV on my PC, when I have two 55” TVs in the house. And besides the DirecTV2PC software is utter crap. It sometimes worked on my desktop and never worked on my laptop.
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For the future of our nation, we must unite and vote out the terrorist known as Hussein Obama. Come November 6 2012 we must remove the socialist pig out of office and get our country back on the RIGHT track.



hottboiinnc1

@buckeyecom.net

And as I have posted before I never had to pay up front for my DVR. I selected ONE HD-DVR and never was charged. For all the other Tvs they got just an HD box and was able to access the DVR just fine. By selecting more than one DVR yes you DO PAY for those due to they are NOT included in your "package" DTV makes it clear what you get for free and what you do not.

DTV even sends out flyers in the mail by RedPlum that they don't charge for equipment. Since today is Saturday I'm sure I'll get one and I'll scan it. And their TV ads state the same thing, no equipment to buy.


stridr69

join:2003-05-19
San Luis Obispo, CA

reply to Steve Mehs
Actually NFL ticket is available on PlayStation 3.



Steve Mehs
Gun Control Is Using A Steady Hand
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join:2005-07-16

Yes, I know. I have no interest in streaming video. I'm guessing the PS3 version doesn't have Game Mix, mobile access or probably even a Dolby 5.1 audio feed. I cannot stand the thought of not having actual channels to flip between. Internet streaming sucks!
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For the future of our nation, we must unite and vote out the terrorist known as Hussein Obama. Come November 6 2012 we must remove the socialist pig out of office and get our country back on the RIGHT track.


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