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4 edits | Ahh the median iPhone user... Just goes to show how clueless the typical Iphone consumer is regarding wireless. Verizon at least has the #1 ranked CS and world leading network to back their prices up. AT&T (i.e. Cingular) wireless is nothing more than smoke and mirrors and a half-baked service, yet iPhone users still flock to them.
On a side note, of course ATT & VZ have all but abandoned the wireline market, where they have to actually earn their revenue legitimately. Instead, they now favor the cash cow wireless sector, that they essentially own. And the American consumer is happy to pay for it.
We were recently ranked as being up to 10 times more expensive than carriers abroad for data. Therefore, how much more expensive are we going to be in the next study... considering our main carriers now charge $40 to $50 for just 1 gig. In addition, charge you extra for the 'luxury' of being able to share this overpriced 1 gig. |
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| Re: Ahh the clueless iPhone consumer What does any of this have anything to do with the iPhone or iPhone consumer? Any smartphone on Verizon requires a data share plan. And Verizon sold 3.1M iPhones and 3.4M Androids last quarter. By your logic, the average Android consumer is even more clueless.
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| said by Ctrl Alt Del:What does any of this have anything to do with the iPhone or iPhone consumer? Any smartphone on Verizon requires a data share plan. And Verizon sold 3.1M iPhones and 3.4M Androids last quarter. By your logic, the average Android consumer is even more clueless.
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said by Ctrl Alt Del:What does any of this have anything to do with the iPhone or iPhone consumer? Any smartphone on Verizon requires a data share plan. And Verizon sold 3.1M iPhones and 3.4M Androids last quarter. By your logic, the average Android consumer is even more clueless.
First off, your typical android user is much more tech savvy than an iPhone user. The fact that VZ has the most customers, yet sold less iPhones during the same quarter says a lot.
You missed my point. Iphone users are still flocking to AT&T and paying close to what you pay for VZ, yet receiving a significantly worse cellular experience. That is my point.
Of course both carriers are a rip off but what choice do people have... |
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Palo Alto, CA | You need to realize that different people have different needs from their cell service and just because AT&T is bad where you are, doesn't mean that they're bad for everyone.
AT&T is the only one with cell service that works inside my house. AT&T was the only one with a cell tower at my university, making it the only one that worked in the underground areas of the university. AT&T makes it much easier for me to swap between phones and use my phone overseas.
These are/were all very important issues to me. At the same, I rarely don't have signal in a place Verizon does.
There are are places where AT&T has better coverage and their are places were Verizon had better coverage. Does one have better coverage overall? I don't know and I don't care and neither should most people. I care about coverage in the areas I go and not the places I will never go to. |
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said by Telco:First off, your typical android user is much more tech savvy than an iPhone user. The fact that VZ has the most customers, yet sold less iPhones during the same quarter says a lot. Sounds like a personal opinion lacking proof. And any proof you though you had from this article is actually wrong, see below.
said by Telco:You missed my point. Iphone users are still flocking to AT&T and paying close to what you pay for VZ, yet receiving a significantly worse cellular experience. That is my point. That chart doesn't show users flocking anywhere. The majority of the 4.7M iPhone activations were existing customers buying a new phone.
AT&T only had a 678,000 net increase in total wireless subscribers. Verizon Wireless, meanwhile, added 1.5 million retail postpaid subscribers. People are actually flocking to Verizon by a factor of 3x. And the iPhone accounted for 46% of the 6.8 million smartphones Verizon sold in the quarter.
All those clueless iPhone consumers? Not quite. They're jumping ship to Verizon and half of Verizon's customers are buying iPhones.
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 Count ZeroObama-Biden 2012Premium
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Winston Salem, NC | reply to Telco
Re: Ahh the clueless iPhone consumer said by Telco:Just goes to show you clueless the average Iphone consumer is regarding wireless. Verizon at least has the #1 ranked CS and world leading network to back their prices up. AT&T (i.e. Cingular) wireless is nothing more than smoke and mirrors and a half-baked service, yet iPhone users still flock to them.
On a side note, of course ATT & VZ have all but abandoned the wireline market, where they have to actually earn their revenue legitimately. Instead, they now favor the cash cow wireless sector, that they essentially own. And the American consumer is happy to pay for it.
We were recently ranked as being up to 10 times more expensive than carriers abroad for data. Therefore, how much more expensive are we going to be in the next study... considering our main carriers now charge $40 to $50 for just 1 gig. In addition, charge you extra for the 'luxury' of being able to share this overpriced 1 gig.
As a recent switcher from AT&T to VZW I can honestly say that I don't think the disparity is as great as it once was. Granted with VZW I can use my phone at work around the hospital where AT&T doesn't get signal, but that's only because VZW has an antenna on top of our hospital...
The data speeds are slightly better on LTE with VZW here but AT&T has better 3G ("4G" HSPA+) speeds when you don't get LTE coverage...
And actually I have to admit I did use that talk & data feature on the AT&T iPhone a lot more than I realized - I hope VoLTE comes sooner rather than later! |
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 Steve MehsGun Control Is Using A Steady HandPremium
join:2005-07-16 | Get a real smartphone. Most, if not all of Verizon and Sprint’s newer Android phones can do simultaneous data and voice over 3G. The lame iPhone can’t even do that on when on 4G with the EVDO providers. Why people continue to use that inferior POS phone is beyond me.
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said by Telco:Verizon at least has the #1 ranked CS and world leading network
Really, is that a fact? Or maybe just your opinion. China Mobile has the "World's leading network" with half a BILLION subscribers. » www.gurufocus.com/news/178251/ch···he-worldIt’s the largest cell phone provider in the world... It has more customers than AT&T (T), Verizon (VZ) and Sprint (S) combined. In fact, with 650 million subscribers, this company has twice as many customers as the United States has people. Don't try to use your Verizon phone in Europe because you probably can't. World's leading network? lol --
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Almost half of Verizon and almost 3/4 of AT&T customers are buying a real smartphone: an iPhone, a platform that had a responsive UI and excellent web browser long before Jelly Bean brought parity. Being able to do simultaneous data and voice apparently is not an important feature according to the buying public.
Android is an excellent portable OS, but wasn't until recently a good phone OS. iOS is moving in the other direction.
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Count ZeroObama-Biden 2012Premium
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Winston Salem, NC | reply to Steve Mehs
Pfft I'd sooner use a dumbphone than a POS android. You couldn't pay me to use an Android phone. I've converted nearly all of my friends from Android to iPhone without even trying b/c iOS is still better than Android and the iPhone is better hardware.
Android makers can copy-paste the iPhone and iOS it however they want phandroid but if I wanted a 5", 2lb phone just for simultaneous voice-data I guess my only option would be an Android - but in that case I'd just go back to AT&T and stick with an iPhone. |
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Count ZeroObama-Biden 2012Premium
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Winston Salem, NC | reply to Ctrl Alt Del
I disagree, iOS hasn't advanced as rapidly as Android - but 99% of the advances in Android were just copying iOS to catch up and making small, incremental at best, updates to what iOS already had.
Android still isn't secure, their marketplace is filled with crapware and all of the hardware in the Android-world is poorly stylized after the iPhone and tends to be too large to carry comfortably in pant pockets. |
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Steve MehsGun Control Is Using A Steady HandPremium
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The iPhone is not a real smartphone. It's a trendy toy for 13 year old girls and for the technological challenged . Let's see, MMS, app switching, multi tasking, copy/paste, real turn by turn nav, all things iOS lacked. Apple finally caught up, but now the iToy lacks DLNA support, NFC, the screen is still too small. Not to mention no expandable memory . But hey, the head phone jack is now ON THE BOTTOM! Talk about revolutionary!
And FYI - The web browser on iOS, Safari Mobile is an utter joke. It sucks. Dolphin HD and Chrome completely destroy Safari.
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Steve MehsGun Control Is Using A Steady HandPremium
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but 99% of the advances in Android were just copying iOS to catch up and making small, incremental at best, updates to what iOS already had.
iMessage – Direct rip off of RIMs BBM
Notification Bar –Rip of off Android
Copy & Paste – My Windows Mobile PDA from 2002 could do that, my iPhone in 2010 could not
MMS – Didn’t get that until the iPhone had been out for a few years
App switching – Supported on Android natively well before iOS
Multitasking – Sure you could multitask on the iPhone, so long as you wanted to use the iPod app simultaneously with another app. Wanna listen to Pandora instead, sorry you're SOL. Could do that on Android though.
Turn by Turn Navigation – See the new Apple Maps or iMaps or whatever they call their abortion of a competitor to Google Maps
So now, what features exactly did Google copy from Apple? And don't say Siri, as voice assistant apps like Vlingo have been around on Android for a while. Android also had the whole Voice to Text thing before iOS.
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Count ZeroObama-Biden 2012Premium
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Winston Salem, NC | Only the entire interface. See Android pre 2007.
And many of those "lacking" features were only present on android slightly before they were on the iPhone, Apple has a much more stable release cycle tied to the annual hardware updates, that explains most of the missing features. Google maps not having turn by turn on the iPhone was largely due to the Apple and Google dispute.
And so we're clear, while you claim Apple maps is an abortion, research groups have noted that very very few actual customers have had any significant problems with them. I personally have used them several times without any errors at all. I think that android users are just upset the apples maps look so nice, latch onto a few small errors and pretend the sky is falling. |
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Steve MehsGun Control Is Using A Steady HandPremium
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Only the entire interface. See Android pre 2007
Lemme guess, nothing but rows of icons? A similar boring UI as the iPhone. Fast forward to the past few years and we have widgets that allow for more customization. But then again, Apple users no nothing about customizations they just obey the commands of their leaders.
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And many of those "lacking" features were only present on android slightly before they were on the iPhone, Apple has a much more stable release cycle tied to the annual hardware updates, that explains most of the missing features.
Go ahead, keep telling yourself that, and maybe you'll eventually believe that. I'm sure Apple is waiting for DLNA and NFC to 'improve' and be ‘more stable’ as well.
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And so we're clear, while you claim Apple maps is an abortion, research groups have noted that very very few actual customers have had any significant problems with them. I personally have used them several times without any errors at all.
If you say so...
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think that android users are just upset the apples maps look so nice, latch onto a few small errors and pretend the sky is falling.
Now that's pretty funny! After owning an iPhone for 16 long painstaking months, I can't think of a single thing I'm ‘upset’ at with Android over Apple. I've been using Google Nav just about every day for the past two years to do my job and never had an issue. I’d be worried if my livelihood relied on Apple Maps. And I’d rather have functionality over looks, not that I think anything on the iPhone is anything special to look at.
Sounds like someone is a little testy that Apple, while they promote themselves as some type of premium, state of the art, cutting edge company, is just the opposite and is often playing catch-up. HTC is coming out with a real 1080p display for their new One X. You Apple users will say, ‘why does anyone need a 1080p screen on a phone’. But then in three years or so when the iPhone 8S has a display resolution around 1920x1080, because heaven forbid if Apple has a standard display not some made up ‘Retina’ thing, it will be the best thing ever.
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Count ZeroObama-Biden 2012Premium
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Winston Salem, NC | Aww… Another phandroid in denial. |
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Steve MehsGun Control Is Using A Steady HandPremium
join:2005-07-16 | Yep in complete denial.  Meanwhile you can't name any specific features Google copied from Apple. Nor reply to any of my points directly.
I'd rather be a Phandroid than a Sheep. |
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Count ZeroObama-Biden 2012Premium
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Winston Salem, NC
1 edit | Again, have you ever look at what android was pre-2007, everything android is now stems from the "Original Sin" – the blatant ripoff of iOS. The incremental updates the android has made "over" iOS are all due to that, and Apple's software release cycle being later in the year than android.
And in my experience, having used my brothers Motorola droid, and several droids of other people at work, iOS has always been more stable, the hardware has always worked better, and faster and more responsive, and has been less crash prone.
One important thing my iPhone has done very well since the 3GS is exchange compatibility, my friend with droids all had to pay for Good email software, Apple had it built in. Media has always been better on the iPhone. There are more high-quality, medical apps on the iPhone.
The iPhone screen blows away every other display I've seen next to it – including the Samsung galaxy three.
With the exception of widgets on the home screen, I have never seen Android to do anything better than the iPhone, and most things on android have been buggy in my experience. |
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