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Crookshanks

join:2008-02-04
Northeast PA
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·Frontier Communi..

reply to cowboyro

Re: Stupidest story of the year

All of the items you just listed would account for more than 200 watts of increased draw. 200 watts is about right for the lighting/tv/PC monitors/etc that would come on when someone is home.

I have my own issues with smart meters, specifically the fact that they give the electric company too much information about me, and will doubtless eventually be used by them and/or the nanny state to raise rates in a misguided attempt to modify my behavior. Dial meters and/or simple digital ones (e.g., ones with remote read functionality but without demand billing/logging features) are preferable. Residential usage is predictable and easy to plan for, there is no reason why my utility needs to track my demand in five minute intervals. There is no reason why they need to know which appliances I have hooked up or how I use them. Bill me per kWh, plus a base fee for the meter, and leave me the hell alone.

Bob
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join:2012-07-22
New Jersey
Reviews:
·Optimum Online

said by Crookshanks:

there is no reason why my utility needs to track my demand in five minute intervals.

Two words: Outage detection.

Crookshanks

join:2008-02-04
Northeast PA
Reviews:
·Frontier Communi..

Two problems:

1) Outage detection has been done at the substation level for decades and does not require smart meters at every residence.

2) Outage detection on a per-residence basis does not imply a need to track demand. A simple ping would suffice.



cowboyro

join:2000-10-11
Shelton, CT
Reviews:
·AT&T U-Verse

said by Crookshanks:

Outage detection on a per-residence basis does not imply a need to track demand. A simple ping would suffice.

It's not only outage detection. It's also determining abnormal dangerous conditions in real-time. Ex a leg gone, overvoltage or undervoltage caused by a failing transformer or connection...

Bob
Account deleted

join:2012-07-22
New Jersey

reply to Crookshanks
If a tree falls or a transformer goes and takes out 3 customers, the power company will know about it immediately.



skeechan
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join:2012-01-26
AA169|170
kudos:2

reply to Bob
Two words: DEMAND CHARGE

Gouge customers for peak demand.


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