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rradina

join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO

If I Had a Nickel...

for every time I was double-taxed...

My favorite is Missouri's personal property tax. I just bought a new vehicle in June and the net price I paid to the dealer was $34K. I had to pay ~$2,800 (~8%) in sales taxes AND I have to declare the vehicle as personal property. The personal property taxes will cost me ~$500/$600 a year. I have to pay to buy it and I have to pay every year I own it.

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openbox9
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Yep, Virginia did that to me with my 6-yr old truck that wasn't purchased or even registered in the state. I just happened to live there for a few years.


rradina

join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO

Did you have to buy a city parking sticker or something? If not and you didn't license it in the state (assuming that's what you meant by register), how did they know? Do they have an enforcer trolling the neighborhood logging out-of-state plates and after they see the same plate for so long, they send a bill?



PapaMidnight

join:2009-01-13
Baltimore, MD

reply to openbox9

said by openbox9:

Yep, Virginia did that to me with my 6-yr old truck that wasn't purchased or even registered in the state. I just happened to live there for a few years.

Beat me to the mention of Virginia. I don't live there but I'm in the broadcast range of WTOP FM and heard nothing but advertisements regarding personal property taxes for roughly a month.


PapaMidnight

join:2009-01-13
Baltimore, MD

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said by rradina:

Did you have to buy a city parking sticker or something? If not and you didn't license it in the state (assuming that's what you meant by register), how did they know? Do they have an enforcer trolling the neighborhood logging out-of-state plates and after they see the same plate for so long, they send a bill?

Would not surprise me. D.C. does. Considering the constant tension between D.C., MD, and VA's agencies, it would not surprise me one bit to learn that Virginia does it. In D.C., if your car is spotted more than once in a 180-day period, a nice notice is left on your car to get registered, get a R.O.S.A. exemption, get one of two 15-day visitor parking permits (only 2 max per year), or get out.

rradina

join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO

And the cost of this enforcement is outweighed by the tax revenue it generates? If camera's are doing the work in an Orwellian fashion, I can see it more than paying for itself. However, if some Joe's specific job is to catalog and determine violations, I'd have to see the numbers to understand how that's a good use of tax dollars. It seems more efficient to drop the personal property tax and get the revenue somewhere else that's easily deterministic and doesn't require enforcement trolls.



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reply to rradina

said by rradina:

My favorite is Missouri's personal property tax. I just bought a new vehicle in June and the net price I paid to the dealer was $34K. I had to pay ~$2,800 (~8%) in sales taxes AND I have to declare the vehicle as personal property. The personal property taxes will cost me ~$500/$600 a year. I have to pay to buy it and I have to pay every year I own it.

I don't miss that moving to illinois. I just now pay non resident taxes which always seem to net me a credit from IL every year.
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openbox9
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I'm guessing it was because I owned a house. All kinds of information becomes available when one purchases real property. My truck was purchased in NE and tagged in FL, yet VA kept hitting me up for personal property taxes.



PapaMidnight

join:2009-01-13
Baltimore, MD

reply to rradina

said by rradina:

And the cost of this enforcement is outweighed by the tax revenue it generates? If camera's are doing the work in an Orwellian fashion, I can see it more than paying for itself. However, if some Joe's specific job is to catalog and determine violations, I'd have to see the numbers to understand how that's a good use of tax dollars. It seems more efficient to drop the personal property tax and get the revenue somewhere else that's easily deterministic and doesn't require enforcement trolls.

Don't see me arguing. Want to see it in action? Walk through Georgetown on a Saturday if you're ever in D.C..

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