| let them live i say, Apple you did not give them the iphone, at least let them live, but somehow i have a suspicion that ATT is pulling some strings for this to happen...... |
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| said by marinemaster:i say, Apple you did not give them the iphone, at least let them live, but somehow i have a suspicion that ATT is pulling some strings for this to happen......
We don't know if it was Apple or T-Mobile who didn't make the iPhone on T-Mobile happen. I suspect that how it went down was that Apple said "we want a cut" and T-Mobile said, "hell no" then Apple said, "alrighty, no iPhone for you." |
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 cdruGo ColtsPremium,MVM
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said by marinemaster:i say, Apple you did not give them the iphone, And by give I believe you mean enter into a deal where TMo pays Apple a small fortune per phone for the privileged to sell their device.
Why should Apple let them use their device in advertising without licensing it? If Samsung is going to get in trouble for having a device that looks similar, they aren't going to let TMobile slide for using the actual device in a manner beyond fair use.
ATT is pulling some strings for this to happen. |
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kudos:1 | Except that Samsung is selling a competing device with the intent of getting customers to *not* buy an Apple device.
T-Mobile's campaign actually would boost Apple's unlocked device sales. |
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kudos:7 | said by tiger72:T-Mobile's campaign actually would boost Apple's unlocked device sales. For the 5 people who are buying an unsubsidized iPhone with the intention to move over to T-Mobile? |
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kudos:2 | What's your point? How is this hampering Apple's bottom line? |
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Tmobile has said they have over 1 million unlocked Iphone users on their network and that was a while back. It maybe more or maybe less now , but it's definitely more than 5 
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said by cdru:said by tiger72:T-Mobile's campaign actually would boost Apple's unlocked device sales. For the 5 people who are buying an unsubsidized iPhone with the intention to move over to T-Mobile? Make it 6. I am going buy an unlocked Iphone and use T-Mobile. |
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said by fifty nine:We don't know if it was Apple or T-Mobile who didn't make the iPhone on T-Mobile happen. I suspect that how it went down was that Apple said "we want a cut" and T-Mobile said, "hell no" then Apple said, "alrighty, no iPhone for you."
Just like Verizon before it realized how big of a mistake it was for them. |
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said by cdru:For the 5 people who are buying an unsubsidized iPhone with the intention to move over to T-Mobile?
And all the stolen iPhones sold on the streets. |
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Some people buy them and unlock them and use them overseas.... |
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It's fair use to use an unlocked iPhone on any network that it supports, it's sold unlocked or the phone is unlocked after it's off contract precisely for that reason.
Apple may have convinced carriers and people that they should pay a high premium just to get the device on the network, but the truth is once you buy and unlocked iphone it's yours to do with as you please. The carrier you choose doesn't have to pay apple to put your device on their network.
Apple sells unlocked iPhones, they consent to people using them on any network. |
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said by moonpuppy:
Just like Verizon before it realized how big of a mistake it was for them.
Thats your opinion it was a mistake.... I think it was a mistake to allow this cult on to the VZW network...it screwed over more existing customers in many ways...
This was a strictly greedy Gordon Gecko stockholder BS $$ grab. 
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said by MovieLover76:It's fair use to use an unlocked iPhone on any network that it supports, it's sold unlocked or the phone is unlocked after it's off contract precisely for that reason.
Apple may have convinced carriers and people that they should pay a high premium just to get the device on the network, but the truth is once you buy and unlocked iphone it's yours to do with as you please. The carrier you choose doesn't have to pay apple to put your device on their network.
Apple sells unlocked iPhones, they consent to people using them on any network.
Agreed. An unlocked Iphone works on Tmobile.
It is fair use of them to advertise that the device works on their network. They can advertise reality and facts.
As long as they are not saying they are the official company of the iphone or they are exclusive for the iphone then I cant see how they are breaking any laws or encroaching on anyone elses exclusive deals with apple.
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said by TuxRaiderPen: said by moonpuppy:
Just like Verizon before it realized how big of a mistake it was for them.
Thats your opinion it was a mistake.... I think it was a mistake to allow this cult on to the VZW network...it screwed over more existing customers in many ways... This was a strictly greedy Gordon Gecko stockholder BS $$ grab. Yeah, when Verizon was bleeding customers because ATT had the iPhone and Verizon did not. 
Verizon was selling their service over their phones and it was well known that Verizon's phone lineup was basic. This site even published a study that showed that 49% of the people switching to ATT for the iPhone were from Verizon. They had to beef up their phone offerings (which included Android phones) but they still wanted that Apple magic and then started begging for the iPhone.
You thinking it was a mistake is a consumer view but I can't tell you how many people, on this very site, whined about wanting an iPhone but not wanting ATT service. |
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Its a lot more than that I live in a town of under 200k people and have a friend who sells Tmobile phones. They have been getting 3-5 users come in a day since 5's launch.
I am actually on Tmobile and got the Iphone 5. I paid a friend 200 dollars to use their ATT upgrade then paid for an unlock through ebay for 8 dollars. |
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