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Telco

join:2008-12-19
Reviews:
·Callcentric

reply to jjeffeory

Re: This is why...

We definitely need a national wholesale FTTH network. Heck, we can even have each state manage it, since these last century states rights types (i.e. Republicans) love that sort of inefficiency; under the guise of small government.

By having the government own the underlying infrastructure, any number of 'Private' providers can then sell their services over it; versus the highly-competitive status-quo of Verizon.

silbaco

join:2009-08-03
USA

A national network would have serious privacy concerns. It would also put tens of thousands of employees out of work because it would take less people to maintain one network. One network would also utilize very few manufactures, which would actually be counter productive for innovation because the others would go out of business. And knowing how the government runs things, it would all be unionized labor (worse than we have now) and inefficiently ran to the point where it could actually cost consumers more money. Whether you are Democrat or Republican or Independent, it is hard to deny that the government does not do a good job doing any of their projects.

What we have now is not great. No doubt there. But a national network is not the solution either. We need to promote real competition and provide incentives for companies to do better. And reward those that do. And we could actually do that without spending a dime of tax payer money. We can fix the problems we have. We just need a government that understands the internet.


jjeffeory

join:2002-12-04
USA

This is the response I expected from someone. Thanks for fulfilling my expectations. Thing is, we've tried it one way and we are where we are. Time to try this issue another way. We've already given companies billions upon billions in incentives, yet they've not kept their obligations. I know what you're saying though. This is a difficult issue that we've been put in...


Telco

join:2008-12-19
Reviews:
·Callcentric

reply to silbaco
Why do you guys always have the exact same cut and paste response to anything new? Because of this baseless and irrational fear and paranoia, we have not tried any new approach in over 30 years.

We have tried the GOP way for nearly a century now and the results speak for themselves. We rank close to dead last in everything but defense, an area we now spend like the Soviets once did.

Whereas, the rest of the Big Gov world that was supposed to fail 30+ years ago steams ahead. They have an incredible living standard, a modern infrastructure, and cutting-edge mainstream technology.

We used to lead the world and were pioneers. What the hell happened to us... Reaganomics, that's what.


Telco

join:2008-12-19

reply to jjeffeory
And they never listen to this reality. It's always wash > rinse > repeat the exact same talking points, regardless of the topic or issue.


chgo_man99

join:2010-01-01
Schaumburg, IL

reply to Telco

We rank close to dead last in everything but defense, an area we now spend like the Soviets once did.

Not true. Look at salaries doctors make here

silbaco

join:2009-08-03
USA

reply to Telco
You really seem to think you have my ideas figured out.

Blaming this mess on the GOP is stupid. This is not the GOP way, this is the modern American way. Until people look past party affiliation and stop pointing fingers, this mess will never get cleaned up. Both democrats and republicans have run our infrastructure into the ground because neither one has any real experience with fixing the problems.

Have you read the Patriot act? That right there is why we must never have a government network unless our government changes. It does not matter that it was signed into law by a republican, because it was just extended by a democrat. Our government does not understand where human rights should be. Everything else you are more than welcome to dispute that I said about a government network, but I don't think you'll be able. Reality is that.

When it comes to fixing our broadband networks, we can fix them. By setting some real regulations and real requirements that must be met and enforced with an iron fist. No, that does not mean 1gbps overnight. But the idea of letting companies swallow billions of tax dollars has been allowed to exist under both parties, because both parties don't know what the f*** they are doing. If we got on top of things and said they could not do that, must offer service to 100% of customers in their territory (many coops already do this) put an end to low caps, must have a certain speed available to all customers at a price reasonable for the local economy, stopped monopoly mergers and deals, made it more friendly to expand service to new areas, etc. We could offer incentives to help them get this done and we could fix this problem. But if we continue to say it is the GOP's fault or the Demo's, we will never go anywhere because both parties favor the companies. Neither favor us. And wishing for unrealistic national networks is not going to help us in any way.


silbaco

join:2009-08-03
USA

reply to jjeffeory
We gave them incentives with little regulations to see they did as they were supposed to do. No one has a backbone, that is the problem.


old_wiz_60

join:2005-06-03
Bedford, MA
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS

reply to silbaco
Great point but bribery rules, so carriers own enough members of congress and the regulatory agencies to block any real attempt at reform of any kind. It has nothing to do with republicans or democrats - they both collect huge bribes routinely, along with the members of the regulatory agencies.


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