 alchav
join:2002-05-17
Palm Desert, CA | reply to ITALIAN926
Re: Migrate said by ITALIAN926:I understand what youre saying. But any customers still using DSL/POTS is pure profit for AT&T until they are in need of maintenance. Leave them where they are until a repair arises.
Volunteer basis resulting in higher prices to access Uverse? Sure. Migrations due to repairs? Sure. I just dont agree with the whole "force" idea.
You guys think that old DSL/POTS Plant and Equipment is all paid for and just collecting Profits. That's far from the truth, Old Equipment takes more maintenance and uses more space in the C.O.. As for the Old Copper Plant, you guys forget, but AT&T still needs it for U-Verse. That's why I think AT&T just wants to dump all this mess. Maybe somebody like Frontier or another near sited Company is willing to take all these headaches. AT&T would just like to dump all this Old Stuff and start fresh. |
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Chicago, IL | said by alchav: AT&T would just like to dump all this Old Stuff and start fresh. The taxpayers helped fund some of that old stuff. The old stuff is more reliable in many cases for consumers then the new stuff.
Phone companies are still considered PUBLIC UTILITIES. They are suppose to serve the public good NOT just the bottom line.
POTS are still more reliable the VoIP.
U-verse was a bad idea for AT&T, it doesn't have a good future. They should have gone full fiber like Verizon did.
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@sbcglobal.net | All go fiber? Rigggghhht.....another noob who just spits out nonsense. Yeah don't bother using that copper, just tear up every neighborhood in the world and place fiber because...u know ...it's so cheap to do that. uverse is doing fine, you may want to learn about how xdsl works before u start blabbing that old rhetoric. |
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public
join:2002-01-19
Santa Clara, CA | said by Huh :All go fiber? Rigggghhht.....another noob who just spits out nonsense. Yeah don't bother using that copper, just tear up every neighborhood in the world and place fiber because...u know ...it's so cheap to do that.
Yes it is.
Industrial cities have no trouble installing underground fiber using directional drilling and existing utilities.
Nothing is torn up.
Anti technology banana republic ATT morons cannot grasp that. |
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@mycingular.net | Yes and that is also expensive....again, uverse tv is fiber to the node. The copper portion of uverse video service is only 300 to 5000 feet from that node. That work was already done. VDSL2 is a more than adequate technology to provide you plenty of bandwidth for the services you desire. In the next few years even more so. |
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alchav
join:2002-05-17
Palm Desert, CA | reply to public
said by public:said by Huh :All go fiber? Rigggghhht.....another noob who just spits out nonsense. Yeah don't bother using that copper, just tear up every neighborhood in the world and place fiber because...u know ...it's so cheap to do that.
Yes it is. Industrial cities have no trouble installing underground fiber using directional drilling and existing utilities. Nothing is torn up. Anti technology banana republic ATT morons cannot grasp that. I'm not saying AT&T should pull out the Copper and put in Fiber, I think that Ship sailed a long time ago, and you throw in the PUC it's a no win solution. That's why getting rid of the Traditional Public Telephone Network sounds so good. Then AT&T could concentrate on their Wireless and Backbone Networks. |
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public
join:2002-01-19
Santa Clara, CA | reply to Huh
said by Huh :Yes and that is also expensive....again, uverse tv is fiber to the node. The copper portion of uverse video service is only 300 to 5000 feet from that node. That work was already done. VDSL2 is a more than adequate technology to provide you plenty of bandwidth for the services you desire. In the next few years even more so.
Well in developed cities it costs about $60/mo for a 100/10M connection, and that includes tv and voice.
Funded by long term bonds.
ATT was already paid for fiber, which never materialized.
And try accessing cloud services over xdsl at 5000ft. |
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@mycingular.net | Please tell us about these developed and industrial cities.... I am guessing that Miami where i live is not one....show us some rate plans and don't try to even talk about europe because they are no better, been there. Which AT&T fiber are u talking about? When u say AT&t was paid for fiber? Which fiber... For Uverse. Think again, divestiture was in 1982. Accessing cloud services? Are u constantly uploading gigs of data to the cloud? This is in bursts at best in consumer models with most residential costumers not having an issue with 1-3 Meg's a second uploads. I agree this will increase over time, but still is completely doable with VDSL. Next set of Band plans will have additional upstream capability. |
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