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tlylework

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WOW

I think it is awesome the double standard here. If your a person on food stamps or welfare your a worthless, lazy drain on society. If you are a large corporation who gets handouts for something you every actually do or accomplish you've earned it.... Dang them all to heck, worthless poor people.


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said by tlylework :

I think it is awesome the double standard here. If your a person on food stamps or welfare your a worthless, lazy drain on society. If you are a large corporation who gets handouts for something you every actually do or accomplish you've earned it.... Dang them all to heck, worthless poor people.

Wasn't welfare-style "handouts" they got. Nothing different than your tax deductions on your tax forms when you file your income tax. Do those deductions you claim make you a "worthless drain on society?

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brandon
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said by NormanS:

said by tlylework :

I think it is awesome the double standard here. If your a person on food stamps or welfare your a worthless, lazy drain on society. If you are a large corporation who gets handouts for something you every actually do or accomplish you've earned it.... Dang them all to heck, worthless poor people.

Wasn't welfare-style "handouts" they got. Nothing different than your tax deductions on your tax forms when you file your income tax. Do those deductions you claim make you a "worthless drain on society?

Why is a tax deduction any less of a government handout than welfare?


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said by brandon:

Why is a tax deduction any less of a government handout than welfare?

Dunno. But everybody who files taxes claims them. So why is John Q. Public, who claims deductions on his taxes, not also considered a "lazy, worthless bum" for taking them?
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CXM_Splicer
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Don't know either, but then I wouldn't consider someone on welfare a lazy worthless bum for taking it. Of course, the glaring difference here is who can afford it the most.


sides14

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reply to brandon
Because a tax deduction is a reduction in the amount of taxes paid while a handout is getting something that you never paid.

USF is a government handout.



NormanS
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said by sides14:

USF is a government handout.

USF isn't even a tax. It is neither collected, nor distributed by an agency with powers of taxation.
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said by NormanS:

said by sides14:

USF is a government handout.

USF isn't even a tax. It is neither collected, nor distributed by an agency with powers of taxation.



This statement, while technically true (sort of), really doesn't matter. It was meant to be a tax but was lobbied into oblivion and the end result is a private tax that telco's can collect under the advertised price and distribute or not distribute as they see fit ( again, sort of ).

A third party is supposed to distribute the funds. This third party as you can imagine is anything but.

And as far as I can tell this revenue is completely a write off. In many respects its worse than a tax.


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said by DataRiker:

And as far as I can tell this revenue is completely a write off. In many respects its worse than a tax.

Indeed. But people keep returning the same Corporate lap dogs to the U.S. Congress.
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Sam1212

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"Why is a tax deduction any less of a government handout than welfare?"

Seriously? You don't see a difference in paying less taxes out of YOUR income and recieving a handout from the government? I'm guessing you are a Obama supporter?



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said by Sam1212 :

"Why is a tax deduction any less of a government handout than welfare?"

Seriously? You don't see a difference in paying less taxes out of YOUR income and recieving a handout from the government? I'm guessing you are a Obama supporter?

The general premise of a corporation was to give up liability in exchange for higher taxes and oversight.

ATT just got millions back on a tax refund while paying zero in.

The US practices "corporatism" which is not to be mistaken with capitalism.

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