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BF69
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reply to newview

Re: Typical

said by newview:

Why does it always take the glare of the media spotlight for Comcast to do the right thing?

why do the right thing if you can get away with doing the wrong thing?


cork1958
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This is total incompetence on Comcast's part for not being tell that it was an honest mistake. Granted, most companies now a days want to just give a credit, which is stupid in itself, but when you have to go through major changes to get issue rectified, that definitely shows there's a problem with the system that needs to be fixed.
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Crookshanks

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said by cork1958:

Granted, most companies now a days want to just give a credit, which is stupid in itself

Well, not to defend Comcast, but there are two issues at play here:

1) A lower level employee may be able to issue a refund for a few hundred bucks, but when you're talking about four digits the accounting folks will need to get involved. Nobody in a customer service call center is going to have the authority to issue a check for thousands of dollars.

2) The refusal to give a credit in this instance most likely came from a low level employee who was too stupid/scared to apply basic common sense. He has a flowchart, this situation is not on the flowchart, so he's going to do the safest thing, i.e., nothing.

Never attribute to malice that which can be attributed to stupidity.


John Galt
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And never attribute to stupidity that which can be attributed to greed...


ITALIAN926

join:2003-08-16
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reply to Crookshanks
And obviously, you believe that after ONE call to customer service, it then went straight to the news station. Umm, I can assure you, these people made a significant amount of calls to Comcast, and it got them nowhere.


Crookshanks

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No, I believe that Comcast, like most large corporations, is staffed with a significant number of poorly trained people who are afraid to take initiative. Combine that with the bureaucracy inherent to any large organization, and it's easy to see how this could have happened. Nothing in this story implies malice on the part of Comcast.


moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD

reply to Crookshanks

said by Crookshanks:

Well, not to defend Comcast, but there are two issues at play here:

1) A lower level employee may be able to issue a refund for a few hundred bucks, but when you're talking about four digits the accounting folks will need to get involved. Nobody in a customer service call center is going to have the authority to issue a check for thousands of dollars.

2) The refusal to give a credit in this instance most likely came from a low level employee who was too stupid/scared to apply basic common sense. He has a flowchart, this situation is not on the flowchart, so he's going to do the safest thing, i.e., nothing.

Never attribute to malice that which can be attributed to stupidity.

If either of the above were the case, then lower level idiot (a viable term here) should have escalated the matter.

Anyone with a single brain cell knew this would go to the press and force Comcast's hand.


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said by moonpuppy:

Anyone with a single brain cell knew this would go to the press and force Comcast's hand.

Then you've never worked in a call center. Customers call in all the time that are upset, pissed, belligerent, threatening, etc. Sometimes the customer's demeanor is justified, other times it's not. Either way, as a customer support rep, you are not always empowered to help the customer, or may not have received the proper training to help the customer. The same goes for the people who are part of the chain of escalation at call centers.
Certainly the customer did not receive the level of customer service that he obviously should have, however that does not directly indicate that the lower level person is the one who failed. Without recordings of the call(s) he made we simply have no way of knowing.
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Maxo
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said by John Galt:

And never attribute to stupidity that which can be attributed to greed...

The rule here seems to attribute everything to the falling sky regardless. If someone can be blamed and belittled, do it.

hedyd4u
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Schenectady, NY
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reply to Crookshanks
Next time read the story before trying to defend comcrap for incompetence

Even after WKRG got involved, it still took a visit to the local Comcast depot, "several phone calls, and seven hours" before someone finally made a decision that makes any sense.


moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD

reply to Maxo

said by Maxo:

Then you've never worked in a call center. Customers call in all the time that are upset, pissed, belligerent, threatening, etc. Sometimes the customer's demeanor is justified, other times it's not. Either way, as a customer support rep, you are not always empowered to help the customer, or may not have received the proper training to help the customer. The same goes for the people who are part of the chain of escalation at call centers.
Certainly the customer did not receive the level of customer service that he obviously should have, however that does not directly indicate that the lower level person is the one who failed. Without recordings of the call(s) he made we simply have no way of knowing.

I never worked in a call center? WRONG! Thanks for playing.

And yes, I have been threatened multiple times in the course of my job and yet, I am still employed. When I had a certain situation pop up, I told my supervisor what was going on and prepared him for the onslaught. It came less than a minute later and he sided with me causing headaches for the caller.

And as for those recordings, they are BS. If a customer berated one of my CSR people, I would immediately copy that tape and save it for further use up to cancelling the customer's account for abuse. But, it never happens. Maybe customers should record their conversations with CSRs and see how badly they perform.

Again, a difference of a few cents is not a big issue. Even a $50 difference is not big deal. However, a 100x difference should have set off a red flag immediately.

No, the customer did not receive the level of customer service that he obviously should have and rarely do they ever get that type of service.


Maxo
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said by moonpuppy:

No, the customer did not receive the level of customer service that he obviously should have and rarely do they ever get that type of service.

You are creating a straw man here. It is obvious that the customer did not receive the proper resolution through traditional channels, which is not acceptable. If you have worked in a call center then you know that this may or may not be the fault of the rep(s) that took the call. Too often the reps that take the calls are simply not empowered to help customers in the way that the customers deserve. All that person can do is escalate, and at that point it is out of his or her hands.
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moonpuppy

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said by Maxo:

You are creating a straw man here. It is obvious that the customer did not receive the proper resolution through traditional channels, which is not acceptable. If you have worked in a call center then you know that this may or may not be the fault of the rep(s) that took the call. Too often the reps that take the calls are simply not empowered to help customers in the way that the customers deserve. All that person can do is escalate, and at that point it is out of his or her hands.

No, there is no strawman. The fact is that the CSR did not do their job and neither did ANYONE up the entire chain. Your line of "It is obvious that the customer did not receive the proper resolution through traditional channels, which is not acceptable" is BS because these types of issues happen day after day and do not get fixed.

If customer support was such an important goal, then why did it take a TV station to embarrass Comcast into doing the refund? If a customer complains and no TV station reports it, is it a problem?

Comcast can apologize all they want but it still does not change the fact they screwed up royally and will continue to do so because it is financially beneficial to them.


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said by moonpuppy:

No, there is no strawman.

Then you don't understand the strawman. You argued the first level rep that took the call is an idiot. I argued that there is no reason to say with certainty that the first-level rep is to blame. Then you started arguing a bunch of other things, but you stopped arguing it was the first level reps fault. That's how a strawman works. You stop arguing your original point and pick a new one.
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moonpuppy

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said by Maxo:

Then you don't understand the strawman. You argued the first level rep that took the call is an idiot. I argued that there is no reason to say with certainty that the first-level rep is to blame. Then you started arguing a bunch of other things, but you stopped arguing it was the first level reps fault. That's how a strawman works. You stop arguing your original point and pick a new one.

Sorry, but you are wrong. We have NO indication this CSR did anything but read off a script. He blew off the customer. And Comcast needs to take the blame for all of it. Even someone in billing should have seen this but they chose to ignore it. This is a failure of of everyone from the front line reps to the supervisors to billing and all the way up. Again, why did it take a TV station calling to make the refund? Because the entire chain thought this would go away and not be the PR disaster it became.

Keep defending the indefensible.


Maxo
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said by moonpuppy:

Keep defending the indefensible.

Keep assuming. It makes you look smart.

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