| VZ Wants to Kill FiOS This is just another step in that. Drive the price up, then claim no one was interested. It's wishful thinking on VZ's part to get out of a market they don't want to be in.
Meanwhile, have you heard about Verizon's 4G LTE network yet? You can package it with your Xfinity TV! |
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| said by osravens:This is just another step in that. Drive the price up, then claim no one was interested. It's wishful thinking on VZ's part to get out of a market they don't want to be in.
Meanwhile, have you heard about Verizon's 4G LTE network yet? You can package it with your Xfinity TV!
This is not entirely accurate.. Verizon is stuck with FTTP, what is not certain is what they will do with their remaining copper networks (and to a lesser extent, current build commitments). The BILLIONS of a warchest from the Bell Atlantic / GTE days are at least half spent (26 out of 50 billion dollars in cash). There's this segment of management that's had it bad for developing wireles and betting the farm on competing with AT&T in a duopoly-- and they've gotten their way.. for now. For a while I suspected that Verizon wanted to pay off Vodafone once and for all.. but now they've resigned to keep vodafone onboard probably indefinitely due to the fact that the FCC & DOJ is not going to just hand over all the goodies in terms of commoditization of wireline & wireless data... so that companies can feel free to gouge consumers. That means they'll need an investor to fall back upon if/when wireless cycles down in demand.
As ATT/Verizon jack up prices, this give smaller carriers every incentive to build their networks- largely because their business model still includes "unlimited style" plans & no overages. Nevertheless, the two big carriers are bulding in redundancy so even if they did have to compete at the unlimited model, they could do so easily.. and by the time they make all this money they currently are.. they'll have the deep pockets to win a pricing war too. Little do consumers seem to look at the big picture..
As for wireline? Raising prices will drive consumers away... but there is no profit in doing that... and I don't think it will give them a justification for usage based billing. Just about the only thing that would, is IF the evil empire Republicans take power..
If you thought corporate greed is obscene and out of control today....? Just give it 4 years of a republican administration & congress... The country will earn itself a new name.. and it's not a nice one.. |
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Sammer
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said by osravens:This is just another step in that. Drive the price up, then claim no one was interested. It's wishful thinking on VZ's part to get out of a market they don't want to be in.
Even with the price hikes it's doubtful that no one will be interested. Verizon may have installed some "greenfield" FiOS this summer where a few new houses are being built in Canonsburg but I still live about three miles away from where FiOS otherwise ends. I pay just as much for Comcast service that is quite possibly worse and arguably no better than FiOS. Sometimes I think Xfinity stands for infinitely expensive. |
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said by osravens:This is just another step in that. Drive the price up, then claim no one was interested. It's wishful thinking on VZ's part to get out of a market they don't want to be in. Seriously? Something like $17 billion invested in the last few years, fastest broadband network around, and they want to walk away from it?
Can't agree with you there. |
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smaller carriers were TOLD to build their OWN networks YEARS ago but refused. And we see what that got Earthlink, COVAD, Speakeasy and see how far its getting companies like Sonic.net (half ass copper network via AT&T and VZ/who ever) and a partly done FTTH that will never fully reach their footprint due to $$$ they don't want to spend without getting investors or more bank notes on the company. DSLX is the same along with every other reseller.
And these companies will NOT be able to get into the wireless market unless they all band together to out buy the specturm they need, or team up with the MSOs and put in wifi access points on the lines and do SIP/VoIP cellular. |
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they have in many areas. So why not the rest? |
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| said by hottboiinnc:they have in many areas. So why not the rest?
Where have they abandoned FIOS?
Stopping the buildout, yes. Dropping the procuct, no.
They need ROI from it, and it gives them too many bragging rights. |
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said by tmc8080:Just about the only thing that would, is IF the evil empire Republicans take power..
You made me look! But this isn't the 'Blue Room' after all.
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said by rebus9:said by hottboiinnc:they have in many areas. So why not the rest?
Where have they abandoned FIOS? Stopping the buildout, yes. Dropping the procuct, no. They need ROI from it, and it gives them too many bragging rights. Fort Wayne, IN and the Pacific Northwest. |
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| said by bigred1324:said by rebus9:said by hottboiinnc:they have in many areas. So why not the rest?
Where have they abandoned FIOS? Stopping the buildout, yes. Dropping the procuct, no. They need ROI from it, and it gives them too many bragging rights. Fort Wayne, IN and the Pacific Northwest. Abandoned FIOS specifically, or completely sold their footprint (all services including dialtone) to a CLEC? |
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| said by rebus9:Abandoned FIOS specifically, or completely sold their footprint (all services including dialtone) to a CLEC?
The deal was to take the FiOS properties in Indiana and Oregon/Washington or no sale at all. Frontier had no choice. So they did abandon us FiOS customers. |
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| said by bigred1324:The deal was to take the FiOS properties in Indiana and Oregon/Washington or no sale at all. Frontier had no choice. So they did abandon us FiOS customers.
No. They just sold you to Frontier. It is Frontier doing any abandoning.
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said by bigred1324:said by rebus9:Abandoned FIOS specifically, or completely sold their footprint (all services including dialtone) to a CLEC?
The deal was to take the FiOS properties in Indiana and Oregon/Washington or no sale at all. Frontier had no choice. So they did abandon us FiOS customers. I understand what you're saying, but withdrawing from a market by selling their footprint to Frontier is different than abandoning a specific product line. Frontier of course has the option to keep the fiber lit, and would be foolish not to do so.
I know carriers are trying to push everything to wireless, but I remain wholly unconvinced that wireless (4G/LTE, 5G, 6G, and beyond) will ever replace wireline. It's cheaper for carriers to deploy, but I don't think we'll see 10/40/100++ Gbps speeds through the air. Some day not so far off, we'll be streaming 3D video at 10,000 pixel resolution and it won't be LTE bringing it into the home. |
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