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zod5000

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Stop calling it the cloud!

Basically the cloud is a synonym for the internet. Save it to the cloud means save it online (via the internet).

I'm not really sure why they decided to call it the "cloud". People were saving files and data to the internet before someone tried to coin is as the "cloud".


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said by zod5000:

Basically the cloud is a synonym for the internet. Save it to the cloud means save it online (via the internet).

I'm not really sure why they decided to call it the "cloud". People were saving files and data to the internet before someone tried to coin is as the "cloud".

And the "cloud" implies that it isn't just the data stored there, but the processing is done there as well.
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And the "cloud" implies that it isn't just the data stored there, but the processing is done there as well.

Dunno. "Server" suggests the same thing, given it has, well, a processor.

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said by zod5000:

I'm not really sure why they decided to call it the "cloud". People were saving files and data to the internet before someone tried to coin is as the "cloud".

Probably some dumbass marketing exec came started calling it that, so everyone followed. See also: X-as-a-service.

Seaboogers

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Actually if you want to be technical about it...weather..specifically heavy rain and snow can affect your access to "The Cloud".

If you have a microwave link set up to serve a location...and you have a "fade event"...the link can go down, cutting you off from access. Most capable engineers build in enough fade margin for this to be a non-event, but it does happen.

Can't really fault a Microwave antenna/dish for getting ripped off a tower in hurricane force winds!

So while it's true "The Cloud" won't go down, it gives the appearance that it's down.



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Of which one of the early examples I can think of [for cloud computing] is Seti and folding/gnome at home.



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RIAA and their ilk should push to make cloud storage the way that all things must be saved. At lest that way they can "snoop" the contents of what is stored for illegal material.
I look at cloud storage the same way I look at e-mail. Priacy is only implied. Your ISP, and any other company, can "look"at the e-mail you sent, once it leaves your PC and hits their hardware. Much like an employers e-mail/electronic use/network use policy. There is no such thing as private once you hit send, or place it in storage on someone else's hardware. Of course you can go the extra mile and encrypt everything. But good luck with that.
Meaning can you trust that they haven't given a back door to the government, or RIAA?
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said by praetoralpha:

said by zod5000:

I'm not really sure why they decided to call it the "cloud". People were saving files and data to the internet before someone tried to coin is as the "cloud".

Probably some dumbass marketing exec came started calling it that, so everyone followed. See also: X-as-a-service.

I agree. I prefer to call it SaaS, IaaS, PaaS, etc. I have worked on systems similar to Amazon Elastic Compute Cloud (Amazon EC2). I would call Amazon EC2 IaaS and drop the "Cloud" terminology.

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said by zod5000:

People were saving files and data to the internet before someone tried to coin is as the "cloud".

Well, sort of. But for the last thirty-something years we've been drawing diagrams which have "the part of the network that we don't need to discuss" drawn as a cloud. So, in fact, the change was that a nerdy term firstly got redefined to mean something a little more specific, and secondly, it got used with civilians without ever really being explained.

As usual, it's probably marketing types just using words they don't understand.

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said by Tommy M :

And the "cloud" implies that it isn't just the data stored there, but the processing is done there as well.

Dunno. "Server" suggests the same thing, given it has, well, a processor.

Not quite. "Server" suggests a particular piece of stuff. "Cloud" at least has the useful benefit of including the notion that you don't know, and don't need to know, where it's running, whether it's running on one lump of stuff or several, whether and when it can move around, and all the flexibility benefits. So there's a need for some word for all that. But it ought to have technical substance; "cloud" is now mostly buzzword.

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