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ITALIAN926

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Re: Well..

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nd the RIAA's tactics of trying to scare everyone into avoiding copyrighted files has never worked as continual piracy rates make very clear.
Karl, youre kidding right? This has ZERO affect? You dont think even a few dipshits read this headline on here and will reconsider BREAKING THE LAW?

I for one, am glad this shmuck got sued, think he'll do it again? Would you at least acknowledge that this lawsuit prevented ONE person from engaging in further copyright infringement?

Simple solution, download legally, everyone wins. $1 a song on Itunes is a lot? Didnt think so.


DataRiker
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said by ITALIAN926:

quote:
nd the RIAA's tactics of trying to scare everyone into avoiding copyrighted files has never worked as continual piracy rates make very clear.
Karl, youre kidding right? This has ZERO affect? You dont think even a few dipshits read this headline on here and will reconsider BREAKING THE LAW?

Nope. I've been involved in "the scene" since IRC and piracy is growing faster now than it ever has.

There has been an explosion of growth in DDL and old style hub trading.

More than I've seen in my 7+ years or so dealing with this stuff.


tshirt
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So when we get out the torches, you are among the first we should burn?



DataRiker
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said by tshirt:

So when we get out the torches, you are among the first we should burn?

You would burn somebody over copy/paste?


tshirt
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If what they copy and pasted was my product, that I and thousands of other worked hard to create and the sale of which was my livelyhood?
I think some probably would, however we have a legal system, which is finding against the priates (interesting choice of terms) more and more.
because the process is difficult and slow you love to proclaim victory.
I cry for those effected by the collateral damage. and the young and inocent drawn in and tainted by your vile behavoir.
You are the "Stranger Danger" we were warned about.



DataRiker
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said by tshirt:

If what they copy and pasted was my product, that I and thousands of other worked hard to create and the sale of which was my livelyhood?
I think some probably would, however we have a legal system, which is finding against the priates (interesting choice of terms) more and more.
because the process is difficult and slow you love to proclaim victory.
I cry for those effected by the collateral damage. and the young and inocent drawn in and tainted by your vile behavoir.
You are the "Stranger Danger" we were warned about.

Copying is not stealing unless one considers unnatural notion of owning an idea, method, or concept. ( an idea born out of unbelievable greed )

Good luck making that work. Never has, never will.

ITALIAN926

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Not a good analogy, not even close.


ITALIAN926

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reply to DataRiker
Ever heard of the concept of patents?



DataRiker
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reply to ITALIAN926

said by ITALIAN926:

Not a good analogy, not even close.

What analogy?


DataRiker
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said by ITALIAN926:

Ever heard of the concept of patents?

Yes.

Anybody can see our patent system is a failure ( as is the whole concept in general )

ITALIAN926

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So wouldnt it be STEALING for you to COPY my patented, IDEA?



DataRiker
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said by ITALIAN926:

So wouldnt it be STEALING for you to COPY my patented, IDEA?

I don't believe one can own an idea

It is such a basic human liberty to think without hindrance.

Apple just won a verdict which includes "rectangular phones". Do you think anybody making rectangular phones is stealing from Apple?

ITALIAN926

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Well believe it, you can. Its also against the law to upload and download copyrighted "works", whether you like it or not. Too f'king bad.

When most people do the right thing, and pay their fair share for music, movies, books, software, etc, What makes YOU so damn special that you can get those things for free? Because you know what a "torrent" is, and have internet access? Big fucking deal.

There are millions of people employed by the existence of copyrighted material, and "idea's" You think its OK to take bread off these peoples tables? I'll never understand how people can lack such simple morals, and certainly not how shmucks like you actually defend this STEALING.



DataRiker
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I will ask again:

Apple just won a verdict which includes "rectangular phones". Do you think anybody making rectangular phones is stealing from Apple?


ITALIAN926

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Why dont you bring a citation along? Or perhaps give more details to this "case" which probably consists of 1000's of pages of literature. "rectangular phones" ? I think Alexander Bell still owns that one.



DataRiker
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»finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ti···804.html

For somebody who argues about patents you sure don't keep up with them.


ITALIAN926

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Doesnt matter if I keep up with them or not. My argument against you stands, COPYing a patented idea is STEALING. I write a song and you copy it, is STEALING in my book, and I promptly kick your ass.



DataRiker
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said by ITALIAN926:

Doesnt matter if I keep up with them or not. My argument against you stands, COPYing a patented idea is STEALING. I write a song and you copy it, is STEALING in my book, and I promptly kick your ass.

In the same manner that all "rectangular phones" is stealing from Apple.

Namely, its not.

gustavenla68

join:2011-02-24
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reply to DataRiker

said by DataRiker:

said by ITALIAN926:

Ever heard of the concept of patents?

Yes.

Anybody can see our patent system is a failure ( as is the whole concept in general )

What do you suggest? If there were not patentent system their would be no innovation and development of technology. Why would a company spend millions researching new ideas if as soon as they come up with it another company could sell it? Why would google develope the adroid if they could not make money off licensing it. Sure in some hippy world we would have people doing it for the benefit of society but we live in the real world and people need motivation to do things.

Crookshanks

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reply to DataRiker
There is nothing wrong with the concept of patents. They exist to encourage innovation by allowing inventors to recoup R&D expenses. Without patents, there is little motivation to spend millions of dollars for R&D. What's the motivation when someone can reverse engineer your product and undermine your ability to recoup your R&D costs? You can't even recoup your investment, much less make a profit, so why would you bother developing any new product or technology? The patent clause of the US Constitution provides as good of an explanation as any for the necessity of patents, I've bolded the two most important parts:

"The Congress shall have the power To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries."

The system as currently implemented is deeply flawed and needs reform. If you want to talk about that I'm game, but to claim that the concept of patents is flawed is absurd.


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