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Re: ENOUGH! said by firephoto: Guess what? We built it, publicly owned, fiber. Guess what happened? GTE wrote a law that made a big giant sinking handout to every incumbent ISP and new startup and forbid the utilities from offering an additional service to their customers.
Can you explain this more carefully? Perhaps I missed, something, but I don't remember GTE or anyone disassembling an operational ftt? system. |
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Brewster, WA | The law in washington forbids public utilities or municipalities from providing internet or network services directly to a consumer. It MUST go through a private retailer.
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Billings, MT | said by firephoto:The law in washington forbids public utilities or municipalities from providing internet or network services directly to a consumer. It MUST go through a private retailer. What if, say, a specific ISP came in and worked with the community and municipalities and deployed a working network? |
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That hasn't harmed Grant county PUD, or tacoma's network.
The law is more about insulating consumer useage from direct gov't interference, and protecting ratepayers/taxpayers from massive "bridge to nowhere" type buildouts that serve the current politicians more than they do the citizens who will pay the cost one way or the other. |
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said by Simba7: What if, say, a specific ISP came in and worked with the community and municipalities and deployed a working network?
That method is in Washington ,as well as utilities or other gov't/citizen owned agentcies building and owning the network, however the actual ISP you connect to over that network must be a seperate non-gov't orgainization, something like Utopia runs.
Citizens could form a not for profit co-op, and run it as an ISP over the network, competing with the other (purely private, for profit) ISPs. |
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Brewster, WA | reply to Simba7
said by Simba7:said by firephoto:The law in washington forbids public utilities or municipalities from providing internet or network services directly to a consumer. It MUST go through a private retailer. What if, say, a specific ISP came in and worked with the community and municipalities and deployed a working network? That's allowed, it's private. Only publicly owned networks are forbidden from offering internet or network connections to end users... and providing service. I clarify the last part because in the case of the Motorola Canopy setup here it is fully deployed by the utility and ISP (they don't atually call themselves ISP's anymore here for some reason) installs the CPE.
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