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1 edit | Good News Good News: Apple wins patent war on Samsung. I owned Apple and Android devices. Both are similar in feel and operation but I quickly went back to iPhone.
The fact of the matter is patents are first come first serve and that Apple came out wit iPhone first. Several of my Facebook friends (that I've known since middle school nearly 16 years ago) are Apple Fanboys (like myself) and they are as happy that Apple won. I am happy too.
Can't wait for Karl Bode  to report on this on Monday.
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| said by IowaCowboy:Both are similar in feel and operation but I quickly went back to iPhone. They are both the same classification of an established type of device; a so called "Smartphone". While Apple defined it in the current sense competition being remotely similar shouldn't be a huge problem, if you believe either platform is superior then it should do better than the other.
You can debate this all day long, but that's what they decided, so meh.
said by IowaCowboy:The fact of the matter is patents are [granted on a] first come first serve [basis] and that Apple came out wit[h] [the] iPhone first. Several of my Facebook friends (that I've known since middle school nearly 16 years ago) are Apple Fanboys (like myself) and they are as happy that Apple won. I am happy too.
The main issue in most of it isn't who "won" figuring everyone loses.
Consumers get less choices and patents which are seemingly quite obvious got validated.
Ignoring the debate on software patents being crazy in the first place, nothing positive has come out of this. All this does is make it more hard to innovate, while taking a bit of money from a company that has a lot more to run off of. |
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Yes, go back to your Steve Jobs alter fanboy. |
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Chesterfield, MO | reply to jmad980
I've heard criticism of Samsung's legal team. The judge limited trial time and they spent all of their time cross-examining Apple's experts rather than presenting their case.
This is a tragedy and it was almost too important to leave in Samsung's hands to defend. We all lose with this one.
There shouldn't be anything wrong with someone imitating success. Copying is wrong but imitating should be allowed.
Do we really think the scroll "bounce" should be IP? It's cool but come on. If it's IP, perhaps a work-around would be to stretch the screen when the end is reached (like a rubber band). It would be clear that you are at the bottom and the effect would be cool because it would snap back when you let it go. Shit...has anyone patented this yet? Perhaps I should get a lawyer!
Regarding the slide lock. Come on. Suitcases and briefcases have had slide locks for years. It's a smart idea because it's harder to accidentally bump it and cause the case to pop open. It's also a great idea on a phone but how can this be IP? Because it's virtual on a phone instead of physical?
Regarding look and feel, I think the iPhone still looks nicer than anything Samsung offers. It also feels like it has more quality. Granted, the specs are getting dated but the iPhone 5 should fix that.
Apple is very successful and they created this market. They are the world's most valuable company, ever. They have been rewarded for their ingenuity and innovation. I don't think they deserve a free ride on top of silly IP that shouldn't have been granted a patent. |
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said by IowaCowboy:Good News: Apple wins patent war on Samsung. I owned Apple and Android devices. Both are similar in feel and operation but I quickly went back to iPhone. I love how Apple fanbois think LESS choice for the consumer is good. sorry you can NOT force us to buy Apple products and why would you want too anyways. Why can't you be happy with your Iphone and leave the rest of alone. Why do you insist we join your cult? I'll go back to an old flip phone before I buy an Iphone if that was my only choice for a smartphone. |
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Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to IowaCowboy
This is actually exceptionally bad news for customers. It means apple can extort companies now over rounded edges and slide to unlock.
If Apple bought an Aerospace firm they would patent putting the cockpit at the front and sue everybody who dared to make a normal airplane, that is the kind of company Apple Inc is.
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said by rradina:I've heard criticism of Samsung's legal team. The judge limited trial time and they spent all of their time cross-examining Apple's experts rather than presenting their case.
This is a tragedy and it was almost too important to leave in Samsung's hands to defend. We all lose with this one.
There shouldn't be anything wrong with someone imitating success. Copying is wrong but imitating should be allowed.
Do we really think the scroll "bounce" should be IP? It's cool but come on. If it's IP, perhaps a work-around would be to stretch the screen when the end is reached (like a rubber band). It would be clear that you are at the bottom and the effect would be cool because it would snap back when you let it go. Shit...has anyone patented this yet? Perhaps I should get a lawyer!
Regarding the slide lock. Come on. Suitcases and briefcases have had slide locks for years. It's a smart idea because it's harder to accidentally bump it and cause the case to pop open. It's also a great idea on a phone but how can this be IP? Because it's virtual on a phone instead of physical?
Regarding look and feel, I think the iPhone still looks nicer than anything Samsung offers. It also feels like it has more quality. Granted, the specs are getting dated but the iPhone 5 should fix that.
Apple is very successful and they created this market. They are the world's most valuable company, ever. They have been rewarded for their ingenuity and innovation. I don't think they deserve a free ride on top of silly IP that shouldn't have been granted a patent.
Um, the judge ruled that the fd700 was late (Even by a few days, judges usually allow such evidence if it's a few days old)
The judge also didn't allow such prior art as the star trek Padd or the 2001 tablet thing to be shown, and that was not late.
The judge was hostile to Samsung from the start.
Samsung showed such things as a touchscreen from 2003 that had pinch to zoom technology, and the end result was completely lopsided, with the jury giving damages to products that did not infringe.
This was either bought out or a result from fanboys. Samsung could not have won either way. |
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Mullica Hill, NJ | As much as I want to hate on fanboys, I think there is a money trail. it might have been a federal court but its still a California district and I bet that district wants to keep apple dollars in the state. especially when they are looking to build a new campus.
Interesting would be how would a jury and court go in Apple v Google. both are icons of the state now and both funnel lots of money into things for their cities, well at least Google does I dunno if Apple does things like free wifi for Cuppertino like Google does in areas around Mountain View.
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