Grande Communications Juices Tiers, Lowers Prices > Juices?

reply to Mojo 77

Re: Juices?

The word "juices" suggests I should be very excited by some sort of extreme event. These are probably the worst prices you'd have if the country was actually competitive, and that upstream speed is shit, whatever the excuse leveled.

Are you volunteering to start another ISP in a market that already has three wireline providers (TWC, Grande, AT&T)?

If not, then you've got to take these changes for what they are: upgrades. Heck, 30 Mbps down and 3 Mbps up isn't bad for many users (myself not included, my immediate and extended family, as well as many friends, included), and a $50-ish price point including modem rental isn't bad either (I'd get Google Fiber if it came to town, but that's $70, not $50).

reply to iansltx
There are at least 10 different ways to get internet in Austin. Any of the techs to deliver internet are there. From my experience Grande and TWC are in a tie as far as who is the better company from the user's standpoint. All that they do there is compete on price and that is all the potential customers look at. Att, TWC and Grande are all pretty bad in the area as far as reliability and service quality... Everyone goes for price in the area... Even with the overbuilds and all the other stuff going on in Austin the companies' services are scattered all over the city and customers pick companies based on the lowest price and the ability of the company to actually locate the address. It's kind of a mess and not a very good example.
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Ten options for Internet?

Okay, let's count...

1. TWC
2. Grande
3. Clearwire
4. AT&T

That's it if you're going to services that have a reasonable/no cap. If you want to keep going there's:

5. VZW HomeFusion
6. ViaSat exede
7. HughesNet
8. T-Mobile
9. AT&T
10. Sprint

But those last six tend not to get included in comparisons because they're heavily capped/throttled/otherwise undesirable. Clearwire doesn't serve some areas, and neither does Grande, so there are still places where you have only two providers who will give you 'net access with a 200+ GB cap (or none at all) for less than $100 per month.

reply to bobjohnson
Multiple ISPs in Teaxas was the previous administration's parting exit to office.. Verizon had very little presence in Texas before telecom deregulation. However, this deregulation primarily meant the LARGE existing carriers were permitted to expand their geographies.. not necessarily have new players enter the market.. and for that, much of the country suffered & is now exploited as a result. Services which cost $30 - $65 + would cost $10 - $15 (for basic phone and/or internet entry level tiers).
This is based on having at least two FTTP carriers and one or two cable carriers offering service concurrently in the same geography. Something you don't see in a majority of the country.

reply to iansltx

reply to tmc8080
Wait...there are places (other than Dallas suburbs) where you have two companies offering FTTP over disparate plants simultaneously?