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etaadmin

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AT&T offers DirecTV
said by ITALIAN926:

openbox is completely def when it comes to this concept. Buying CABLE PRODUCTS in VERIZON stores within Verizons own wireline footprint is completely ridiculous, illogical, and anti-competitive !!!

People like openbox think its a good idea for Verizon stop expanding FiOS, but to also purposely destroy their landline/DSL offerings, and its good for competition? Wake up bro, youre living in a dream.

Cross marketing should be prohibited ANYWHERE within Verizons own wireline footprint. No if's and's or but's.

If they want to spin off VZW (cellco) go right ahead, and create a new stock symbol and name, they can do do whatever they want. But when they make wireless business decisions at the expense of wireline business, its a conflict of interest ! Its anti competitive to shake hands with wireline competitors !

Obviously you haven't heard of AT&T selling DirecTV in places where they don't have uverseTV.

Same thing with the Verizon/Cable agreement... if verizon can't offer TV in a particular market then they can offer cableTV. If Verizon can't offer faster internet speeds in DSL markets then why not DOCSIS3.0 services? If Comcast, TWC et al can't offer wireless services then why not Verizon wireless?

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Obviously you haven't heard of AT&T selling DirecTV in places where they don't have uverseTV.

I would ask (being unfamiliar with uverseTV) if the DirecTV deal would prevent them (or discourage them) from rolling out uversetv in areas they don't have it now. Is there a technological reason why they would make the deal with DirecTV rather than expand uverse? Is AT&T getting something from DirecTV as part of the agreement not to expand uversetv?

Verizon also had (still has?) a deal to resell DirecTV but that was before they offered FIOS (or any TV product). Even with that deal in place, they planned and deployed FIOS in many areas. To me, that does not seem anti-competitive. If there are areas that would have gotten FIOS and that was canceled because of a spectrum deal with their competitor, then Yes... to me, that is anti-competitive. There is no doubt what-so-ever that it is anti-consumer.

etaadmin

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AT&T's explanation for no uverseTV
said by CXM_Splicer:

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Obviously you haven't heard of AT&T selling DirecTV in places where they don't have uverseTV.

I would ask (being unfamiliar with uverseTV) if the DirecTV deal would prevent them (or discourage them) from rolling out uversetv in areas they don't have it now. Is there a technological reason why they would make the deal with DirecTV rather than expand uverse? Is AT&T getting something from DirecTV as part of the agreement not to expand uversetv?

I am familiar with uverseTV and basically it sucks. I don't know if at&t gets something from reselling DTV but I suppose they do.

Yes there are lots of technological reason why many people don't qualify for uverseTV, the most obvious is the distance limitation other reasons are VDSL being unstable among other things.

Verizon also had (still has?) a deal to resell DirecTV but that was before they offered FIOS (or any TV product). Even with that deal in place, they planned and deployed FIOS in many areas. To me, that does not seem anti-competitive. If there are areas that would have gotten FIOS and that was canceled because of a spectrum deal with their competitor, then Yes... to me, that is anti-competitive. There is no doubt what-so-ever that it is anti-consumer.

Well now they have a very good deal going on with the largest cable companies in the US (Comcast, TWC, Cox and Bright House Networks) and the funny thing is that for the first time Verizon will compete head to head against AT&T's uverse.

I don't see anything anti-competitive in this agreement.

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if verizon can't offer TV in a particular market then they can offer cableTV.....
Theres a huge difference between CANT , and WONT.

Once again, I am talking about Verizons own wireline coverage areas. Its their own damn choice NOT to expand FiOS further. This deal fortifies their BS decision making. Hopefully, the restrictions put on this deal covers ALL of Verizons areas, and not simply FiOS areas.

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