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mmay149q
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reply to bemis

Re: You know, this should happen more often

said by bemis:

said by mmay149q:

I understand that, but the billing is no longer about speed anymore, it's about billing per byte

Respectfully, I disagree.

Billing is still about speed.

It just also has a new component which includes overage charges based on total usage.

said by mmay149q:

since you're both allotted the same "free amount" before you reach your cap, then the person on the lower plan is paying less for 250GB's than the person on the higher plan, yes I understand that 6 cents per GB is going towards paying for the speed the higher plan user is using, however it still doesn't make sense from a per GB usage point of view.

I see what you're talking about, it's just that I don't think we're being billed per byte--we're being told what our ISP feels is a reasonable total number of bytes for a month, and if we go over that, we pay extra.

said by mmay149q:

That's the problem with usage based tiers when you mix it with speed. If they are going to do that then the faster speeds need higher data caps

They don't need to do anything

said by mmay149q:

I think speed shouldn't really be marketed anymore if they are doing caps/overages, instead each "speed tier" should be marketed with a data cap accordingly...

That's your version of fair--you believe if you have a faster connection, you ought to have more total bytes. I can understand that, and yeah, I wouldn't mind if it were how the ISP's see it too, but I disagree that they two MUST go hand in hand.

Home internet connections are sold based on speed. If you are using it to browse the web and watch streaming media, than you are most likely wasting your money to go for faster tiers. If you are transferring content then you are paying the extra money to make that happen faster.

The total amount of data sent is irrelevant to pricing based on speed, which is what we still have. The fact that it gets more expensive "per byte" for faster speeds is also irrelevant, there is no law that says that as you buy more you must pay less per unit, this isn't Costco.

Yes I understand it's not Costco, but speed still does not really matter, yes you can get it faster, however someone may buy a 100Mbps connection so that themselves and the other 2 - 4 people they live with can all stream, download, and etc without interruptions or a slow connection, if it's 5 people that's 20Mbps per person, not bad really. This will be the normal American family in 5 years or so, and with all those people using data it's hard to track who is using the most without something special in the router GUI, or the meter on the website literally scanning the router and showing usage based on each device connected to it (which who wants ISP's in your home seeing what you're doing and monitoring it on a per PC basis?)

So at this point you're then forced to install software on each individual PC device (built in on Android/iPhone devices so no need) to monitor usage for each user and see whose using the most and who isn't. And in a family of 5, especially if 3 of them are teenagers I'm pretty sure that 250GB cap will start looking really small really fast. Whereas if everyone had the same speed (and every 2 - 5 years they just upped the speed 100Mbps) but different data usage allotments, then people really would truly be saving based on usage. But the way it is now, it's spun as "use less pay less" but that's not true, because each person is paying a set amount per GB for 250GB's of data (or whatever the cap is the ISP is providing) that they may or may not fully use in one month, and the ISP's know this, and it's exactly WHY they want to implement this policy. Just keep sucking it up and telling yourself whatever makes you sleep at night, either way, you're still getting scammed while they are laughing on the way to the bank with huge bags of cash in hand.

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Matt
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