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unions are the best

China is communist, you fail to mention that. Talking about your retired wife, is irrelevant; I hope she is doing well in retirement. Now about unions, they have to adjust to the new realities in place right now because the economy is so weak and will strengthen over time. Furthermore in your analysis, you fail mention China has no environmental regulations, utilizes population control, and civil rights are severely limited, period.

Ask yourself, does the corporate sector become greedy? I hope you realize it does. Not everything in life revolves around the dollar or screwing the common person out of a decent life. The majority of people in the U.S. work for a living. If you look at the Bureau of Labor Statistics and U.S. Department of Health and Human Services statistics, poverty is growing and that is alarming. Forget the executive banging his hand looking for numbers when he/she refuses to admit they have narcissistic personality disorder.

When we as a society allow one to jump ship with millions of dollars in a "retirement package" , that doesn't feed a family or help those who built that company from the bottom up. Morals and ethics do account for something.
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Unions served a purpose, in the late 1800's and early 1900's. They brought about better and safer working conditions, a livable wage and many other improvements to the American scene, BUT, then greed and corruption reared their ugly heads. People decided that they wished to be paid high salaries and have great benefits to do little to no work and if they stuck together in a "Union", they could extort the ability to do that from their employers. Amerika became a land in which people didn't compete to see who did the BEST work, they competed to see who could do the LEAST work for the highest pay. That's not how to keep a country (and an economy) strong.

The three most Unionized sectors of the country, civil servants, highway workers and utility workers. Are they known far and wide for their great work? NO! Our culture even makes jokes about how little they work! Where did those jokes about the five guys leaning on shovels watching one guy work come from? From observing reality! Why is civil service referred to as "White man's Welfare" even among civil servants??!!

Greed and corruption are bad things. They are bad in government, they are bad in corporations and they are bad in "workers". It seems over the last 40 to 50 years, the only thing we as a nation HAVE worked hard at, is digging ourselves into a very deep hole. We are approaching becoming a Third World Nation at blistering speed. Wake up sheeple. It's almost slaughter time.

And it will continue as long as systems are in place that promote selfishness and greed, rather than selflessness and generosity.

reply to meeeeeeeeee
Actually I will. Be thankful you have a roof over your head and food on the table, many individuals out there don't have that luxury let alone can find a job. What bothers me more is you can't even spell America right and call the U.S. Constitution a rag. Enough with the nihilistic delusions already. Utilize the spell check button and back up your statements with facts.
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Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand.
-Albert Einstein

It's not a nihilistic delusion. It's called reality. Have you watched the news lately, or are you one of those head-in-a-hole types that takes optimism to a blind new level?

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I'd like to believe that it won't collapse under it's own weight so much as be replaced before it does, but sadly that does seem to be a pipe dream with so many sheeple rubber-stamping the status quo out of fear and/or fear of change.

Even if we replaced the politicians with statesmen and rid ourselves of all the petty bureaucrats that have been sucking the country dry, how could you undo all the damage? They've emptied the piggy bank of anything of value and filled it with debt we can't possibly ever pay. The sheeple have been trained to not learn, not think... just blindly follow orders and believe whatever bs is thrown at them. They wave the flag and sing songs about a country that ceased to exist decades ago and tell you how they are ENTITLED to the milk and honey, THEY don't have to work for it. I can't see any way to fix it.

reply to ctceo
Don't gang up on me to try to reinforce what that persons thoughts are. We're recovering from an economic loss that generations have not experienced before. There are positive things in life along with having friends, family, and spirtuality. I tend not to subscribe to anarchy like the previous poster is promoting. Sitting here bashing unions, blaming people who work for the government, and stating unions are the reason everything is wrong underneath the sun is what I have a problem with. People have the right organize to make things better as well as disband to move on to other pursuits in life.

reply to meeeeeeeeee
Unions didnt cause the problems with the econonmy greed did. maybe youll be happy for verizon to get of unions and take away your wife's retirement benefits to be more efficient

And what caused the greed or at least very significantly contributed to it? Capitalism.

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You guys are funny Worker (especially union apparently) and customer greed has some how contributed to the downward spiraling situation? What exactly would the mechanism be for worker/customer greed to encourage or force corporate America to aggressively destroy the middle class?

I don't deny the downward spiral nor do I claim for a second that greed is good in some but not acceptable in others. I would be all for a replacement system based on altruism instead of greed but, if we can't even turn the tide back towards general fairness, what are the chances of actually obtaining that?

reply to armyrebel4
And that loss' root caused is itself. We live using an anti-economy. What happens when you do something wrong on purpose and then continue to use it as is?