 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
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Re: The unions will probably try to take over VZW said by Crookshanks:Enjoy the gravy train while it lasts people, you're already obsolete; it's only a matter of time before E-ZPass becomes mandatory or is supplemented with license plate readers to catch the people without tags. The Intercounty Connector (MD Route 200) in Montgomery and PG counties in Maryland is such a toll road. There are no tollbooths and EZ-Pass is required, and plate-reading technologies automatically bill drivers who do not have an EZ-Pass transponder or a valid EZ-Pass account.
IMO I don't see why EZ-Pass in general still requires transponders... just read the plate number and bill from that.
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Not sure why we need transponders either, other than it's a legacy structure. Was OCR sufficiently advanced when E-ZPass came onto the scene to read license plates reliably? I'm guessing the answer is no? The technology is there now, at least on the NY Thruway, I've been automatically billed the appropriate amount the handful of times my transponder failed to register for whatever reason. |
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| said by Crookshanks:worked at full highway speeds without compelling you to slow down as E-ZPass does. E-Z Pass doesn't require you to slow down, the narrow lanes with the toll collectors walking between booths and funky traffic patterns is why they force you to slow down. Parts of the NJ Turnpike and a number of the tolls in central VA are "full speed" and do not require you to slow down at all. Even the ones that you are supposed to slow down for will read just fine at 50 mph at 2 am 
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| said by mackey:said by Crookshanks:worked at full highway speeds without compelling you to slow down as E-ZPass does. E-Z Pass doesn't require you to slow down, the narrow lanes with the toll collectors walking between booths and funky traffic patterns is why they force you to slow down. Parts of the NJ Turnpike and a number of the tolls in central VA are "full speed" and do not require you to slow down at all. Even the ones that you are supposed to slow down for will read just fine at 50 mph at 2 am /M New Hampshire put in highway speed tolling on I-95 a few years ago (I think either in 2009 or 2010).
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Saw the same technology down in Florida on vacation in February. Rented a car & drove to the Keys. Love it.
Anyway, I still see a place for the "old" EZ Pass technology. The plate scanning technology is great for people who ocassionaly pass through tolls, but then the tolling agency has to bill the customer. Then you run into collection issues, no pay, fake tags, etc. Sure, all problems you see with EZ PASS, but the EZ PASS is pre paid. The agency is pretty much assured of getting their money for minimal effort, and usually bills in pre paid $35 blocks so they earn interest on your money....
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PA sucks in IL the main lines are all FULL speed EZ-PASS no need to slow down. |
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Forest Hills, NY | reply to mackey
E-470 around Denver: 75 MPH SPEED LIMIT, RIGHT THROUGH THE TOLL PLAZA. No toll booths, all transponders and license plat readers. |
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Jamaica, NY
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The EZ Pass readers are programmed to not read above 20 or 5 MPH (the posted speed limit) so you get the $50 OCR License Plate ticket instead of the EZ Pass discount. |
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We have sunpass and pay-by-plate here. There are alot of unmanned toll booths in some areas. I'm sure that will spread in time. |
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said by patcat88:The EZ Pass readers are programmed to not read above 20 or 5 MPH (the posted speed limit) so you get the $50 OCR License Plate ticket instead of the EZ Pass discount. Never had that problem. You need to make sure that you have all your vehicles registered with your account. This can be easily done through their website. I believe their drill is as follows: if they could not read the tag, they take a photo. If they can match the plate, make and model of the car to an existing account, they just bill that account for the toll rate at that spot. Otherwise, they pull registered owner's info from DMV and send out a violation. So as long as you correctly list all your cars with your account and remember to update it every time you change cars, you should not be getting these violations. I think there were a few instances with me when it didn't read my tag. When I look at certain items on my statements, they show my plate number instead of tag.
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said by pnh102:said by Crookshanks:Enjoy the gravy train while it lasts people, you're already obsolete; it's only a matter of time before E-ZPass becomes mandatory or is supplemented with license plate readers to catch the people without tags. The Intercounty Connector (MD Route 200) in Montgomery and PG counties in Maryland is such a toll road. There are no tollbooths and EZ-Pass is required, and plate-reading technologies automatically bill drivers who do not have an EZ-Pass transponder or a valid EZ-Pass account. IMO I don't see why EZ-Pass in general still requires transponders... just read the plate number and bill from that. If you don't have an EZ-Pass you are billed a 50% surcharge. |
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said by Crookshanks:I drove on such a route (209 I think?) in Ontario on my way to Toronto. A few months after the fact I received an invoice in the mail (for $45 CAN! They aren't cheap!) for the toll charges that I then paid with a credit card. It was a pretty slick system and worked at full highway speeds without compelling you to slow down as E-ZPass does.
That would be Highway 407, and yeah, it's a rip off for sure! |
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depends on the state. Ohio has their system set to 5mph where you must do that- and if you do not- you'll hit the gate/arm on the otherside. btw- it is steal. |
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i was in MA 3 weeks ago and paid cash on the turnpike. took the Ez-Pass down and paid cash without a problem. |
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Billings, MT | reply to pnh102
said by pnh102:IMO I don't see why EZ-Pass in general still requires transponders... just read the plate number and bill from that. Only issue I see is License Plate theft. All they really need is a plate in the rear and they could rip someone off. |
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pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
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Mount Airy, MD | said by Simba7:Only issue I see is License Plate theft. All they really need is a plate in the rear and they could rip someone off.
Understandable... but they could just steal your transponder now. But one good thing I'd like about using the plate only is that no one can just look at your car and know that you have EZ-Pass.
The best thing though would be not having to worry about having the batteries in the transponder die... that happened when I was driving from Philadelphia to Boston and back once (almost all toll roads and bridges)... it *really* sucked.
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Mount Airy, MD | reply to aaronwt
said by aaronwt:If you don't have an EZ-Pass you are billed a 50% surcharge [for the ICC]. The intent there was to give an "incentive" for non EZ-Pass users to drive the road for occasional trips. The ICC itself is primarily a commuter route.
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join:2007-11-26
Mathews, VA
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said by Crookshanks:I drove on such a route (209 I think?) in Ontario on my way to Toronto. A few months after the fact I received an invoice in the mail (for $45 CAN! They aren't cheap!) for the toll charges that I then paid with a credit card. It was a pretty slick system and worked at full highway speeds without compelling you to slow down as E-ZPass does.
Not sure why we need transponders either, other than it's a legacy structure. Was OCR sufficiently advanced when E-ZPass came onto the scene to read license plates reliably? I'm guessing the answer is no? The technology is there now, at least on the NY Thruway, I've been automatically billed the appropriate amount the handful of times my transponder failed to register for whatever reason.
EzPass does not require the vehicle to slow down. It will read the transponders at any speed. |
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Mathews, VA
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said by mackey:said by Crookshanks:worked at full highway speeds without compelling you to slow down as E-ZPass does. E-Z Pass doesn't require you to slow down, the narrow lanes with the toll collectors walking between booths and funky traffic patterns is why they force you to slow down. Parts of the NJ Turnpike and a number of the tolls in central VA are "full speed" and do not require you to slow down at all. Even the ones that you are supposed to slow down for will read just fine at 50 mph at 2 am /M Not only can you "breeze" through at any speed they also have hi-speed cameras to get your license plate if you don't pay. |
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said by Crookshanks:I drove on such a route (209 I think?) in Ontario on my way to Toronto. A few months after the fact I received an invoice in the mail (for $45 CAN! They aren't cheap!) for the toll charges that I then paid with a credit card. It was a pretty slick system and worked at full highway speeds without compelling you to slow down as E-ZPass does.
Sure it wasn't 407?
That road is privately-owned by Cintra, a Spanish toll-road company. These privately-owned roads tend to be loaded down with debt, so they have to charge very high tolls.
CAD $45 still sounds steep. I don't know about 407, but I do know that a lot of these roads charge higher fees to one-time drivers than to regular commuters. The toll automatically goes down as you drive more. |
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