Re: Throttling in the U.S.

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FBGuy Premium join:2005-03-19 Evanston, IL	reply to brad Re: Throttling in the U.S. you pay for X mbps, they cannot throttle you below that. sorry for the wording.
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Throttlin @teksavvy.com	FBGuy, this is not that type of throttling. The throttling discussed in this article is the kind that applies to specific types of internet traffic. For example, Rogers purposely slows down bit torrent traffic because bit torrent traffic inadvertently destroys kittens (at least I think that is Roger's position).
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AVD Respice, Adspice, Prospice Premium join:2003-02-06 Onion, NJ kudos:1	reply to FBGuy read your tos. You subscribe for speeds "up to". there is no minimum speeds. The ToS also gives them rights to manage their network. -- --Standard disclaimers apply.-- The preceding posting is null and void in Arizona and any other jurisdiction where prohibited by law.
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FBGuy Premium join:2005-03-19 Evanston, IL	Just read my TOS, nothing in there like what you are talking about.
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brad join:2007-09-06 Etobicoke, ON	said by FBGuy: Just read my TOS, nothing in there like what you are talking about. It's in there.
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brad join:2007-09-06 Etobicoke, ON	reply to FBGuy said by FBGuy: you pay for X mbps, they cannot throttle you below that. sorry for the wording. And that doesn't make any sense. What would be the point of throttling if that were the case?
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FBGuy Premium join:2005-03-19 Evanston, IL	what is the point of throttling?
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FBGuy Premium join:2005-03-19 Evanston, IL	reply to brad it most definitely is not in there. but then again I don't have a residential connection.
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AVD Respice, Adspice, Prospice Premium join:2003-02-06 Onion, NJ kudos:1	said by FBGuy: it most definitely is not in there. but then again I don't have a residential connection. unless you own the ISP, it is in there. Can you post a link to your ISP's ToS? -- --Standard disclaimers apply.-- The preceding posting is null and void in Arizona and any other jurisdiction where prohibited by law.
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brad join:2007-09-06 Etobicoke, ON	reply to FBGuy said by FBGuy: what is the point of throttling? It is typically used as a means to try and reduce the amount of traffic from certain protocols or to certain sites through their network to overcome the lack of appropriate upgrades to their network to be able to handle the load at peak hours. This is especially an issue with cable networks but is also an issue with older DSL networks with ATM links to the DSLAMs.
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Crookshanks join:2008-02-04 Northeast PA Reviews: ·Frontier Communi..	reply to AVD Here is Frontier's residential and business TOS. Additionally here is a page they have on network management. There's nothing in any of these pages about throttling. They do say that they reserve the right to ask you to upgrade to higher tiers of service if you exceed the limits (they don't currently have any, to the best of my knowledge) of your current tier. Two interesting points from the network management page: As a result of explosive growth of the Internet and the availability of ever more sophisticated applications, per subscriber bandwidth consumption has dramatically increased. This causes periodic congestion in the network that Frontier must address. Generally, Frontier utilizes a best-efforts approach to deliver residential High Speed Internet service. This means Frontier does not prioritize one type of traffic (e.g. video) over other types (e.g. data). Frontier seeks to deliver all traffic at the speed the customer has purchased (e.g. 1/3/6 Mbps download speeds); network management is content and application agnostic. Frontier uses network management tools to enforce quality of service to business customers for applications that are sensitive to packet loss, delay or jitter like VoIP, time sensitive data, and video traffic.
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AVD Respice, Adspice, Prospice Premium join:2003-02-06 Onion, NJ kudos:1	said by Crookshanks: Here is Frontier's residential and business TOS. Additionally here is a page they have on network management. There's nothing in any of these pages about throttling. They do say that they reserve the right to ask you to upgrade to higher tiers of service if you exceed the limits (they don't currently have any, to the best of my knowledge) of your current tier. Two interesting points from the network management page: As a result of explosive growth of the Internet and the availability of ever more sophisticated applications, per subscriber bandwidth consumption has dramatically increased. This causes periodic congestion in the network that Frontier must address. Generally, Frontier utilizes a best-efforts approach to deliver residential High Speed Internet service. This means Frontier does not prioritize one type of traffic (e.g. video) over other types (e.g. data). Frontier seeks to deliver all traffic at the speed the customer has purchased (e.g. 1/3/6 Mbps download speeds); network management is content and application agnostic. Frontier uses network management tools to enforce quality of service to business customers for applications that are sensitive to packet loss, delay or jitter like VoIP, time sensitive data, and video traffic. You bolded the wrong thing -- --Standard disclaimers apply.-- The preceding posting is null and void in Arizona and any other jurisdiction where prohibited by law.
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