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elefante72

join:2010-12-03
East Amherst, NY
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reply to 25139889

Re: Hopefully FiOS expansion will be a requirement

You are wrong on so many fronts.

In fact the internet is mandated at every public library for free public access, so that is a right. So if 100% of the citizenry has access to the internet, that is not a privilege. On the contrary a drivers license is a privilege, because a gov't authority has to grant you that right for said access.

I guess you haven't gotten the memo on Franchise Agreements which are contracts in which telcos agree to fully wire a given area via a contract.

And I forgot to mention the lobbying at the State level to void competition at the muni level. That all seems fair to me...

As you probably may not know a S type corporation is an entity allowed by the government and it's charter can be void. Also, if you recall from grade school, LEGISLATION is the governments way of forcing companies and people to do things that they want, and it the case of telco's in their favor. The fact that everyone has hardwire telephone came from a time when the government had backbone and actually regulated for the good of the people.

So when a commodity (which cable is) is running OIBDA margins in the high 30%+s like say Microsoft or Apple, that is NOT normal.

You should read up on how VZ took a boatload of subsidies in NJ and was supposed to wire the entire state. Guess what they didn't and that is VZ home territory. The list goes on.

itguy05

join:2005-06-17
Carlisle, PA

quote:
You should read up on how VZ took a boatload of subsidies in NJ and was supposed to wire the entire state. Guess what they didn't and that is VZ home territory. The list goes on
That was in PA, not NJ.

pittpete1

join:2009-06-12

More than a few residents will probably express an interest in seeing a greater penetration of verizon ’s FIOS network, which already has a franchise agreement with the state of New Jersey and is not required to negotiate agreements with individual cities.


25139889

join:2011-10-25
Toledo, OH

reply to elefante72
And actually many of those libraries and schools PAY for that service, and actually do NOT use the local phone companies nor cable companies. You must not have known that do you? the USDOE actually has created DTA sites in states to allow the use of shared resources and savings for communication needs.

And you must also not realize those states also have a clause that the local ILEC can get rid of their service with a 90day notice to the public. Go read that. Also they don't have "franchise" agreements.

And you must not know you are wrong. They took that money from PA- and PA got what they wanted- they got T3 speeds and fiber available to them. YOU PAY FOR IT like everyone else. The deal did NOT state that it would be free or basically free now did it? NOPE! It said it would be AVAILABLE. The same as with an MSO- you can order any speed of Internet you want. YOU PAY FOR IT!


25139889

join:2011-10-25
Toledo, OH

reply to pittpete1
and that is ONLY for TV. it does NOT cover anything else. does NOT cover, Internet nor phone.


tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Brooklyn, NY
Reviews:
·ooma
·Optimum Online
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said by 25139889:

and that is ONLY for TV. it does NOT cover anything else. does NOT cover, Internet nor phone.

If verizon would just offer voip phone service instead of POTS, they wouldn't need a state franchise for that. Video service has some arcane law that dictates & regulates what "content" may be serviced to the community for which cable-tv service is sold. Do you really know how outdated that is today with high speed internet? In reality, that was the old smoke screen... today it is a money grab for public access channels and fees for local community coffers. Franchise fees in a city like NYC can total into millions of $$ (ka-ching). Along with state and local taxes.

BTW, my real reason for replying... Verizon is winding down FIOS deployment.. even in NYC.. they are throwing just about every resource into wireless and LTE deployment-- so forget about NJ getting wireline FIOS, if it's stopping in NYC... it damn sure ain't gonna happen in NJ...

Verizon should rot in hell for this change which will cut their nose to spite their face in the long run. The wireless bubble will burst and they'll have spent billions and the day will come when customers shun wireless again (cyclical)

ITALIAN926

join:2003-08-16
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Verizon has a statewide franchise in NJ !!! theres a lot of areas in NJ with FiOS.

Verizon HAS VoIP service, its called Digital Voice, opposed to POTS over FiOS. You are so off base in just about everything you said.


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