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·Verizon FiOS
2 edits | Ridiculous Why is this website, along with this article, exxagerate the numbers by not properly acknowleding telco adds !!!? Its not 400,000 ! Stop exaggerating to endorse your hidden agendas. Publicize the truth , or dont publicize it at all.
400,000 - 275,000= 125,000. Nobody at Reuters can subtract?
("Verizon Communications' FiOS TV and AT&T Inc's U-verse -- added 275,000 customers during the quarter.") |
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 | I'm pretty sure the title says Cable Industry. Verizon and AT&T are not part of the Cable Industry. |
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·Verizon FiOS
| Yes they are, what are you talking about? The misleading story even included Satellite in with the losses.
176k+169k= 345k , now add Satellite 52k+10k DTV and Dish respectively, and this gets the article to their 100% , intentionally misleading, 400K mark.
So, Cable and Satellite are part of the "cable industry", but FiOS and Uverse are not. OK buddy. |
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·Comcast
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| Headline isn't misleading. AT&T/Verizon are telecom companies, as that is their primary business. Satellite qualifies as a cable co, because they make their money on TV service just like Comcast, TWC, et al. That title is spot on.
from the reuters article:
directv: -52k comcast: -176k twc: -169k dish: -10k
(-52k)+(-176k)+(-169k)+(-10k) = 407k loss customers across the entire tv service market. |
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 vpokoPremium join:2003-07-03 Boston, MA | Really, though, the distinction is meaningless. The pertinent point is how many people are paying for TV. You're not "cutting the cord" if you switch to TV service through a telecom. Still a net loss even with the telecom adds, but not as spectacular as without. |
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 | reply to ITALIAN926 I think it's adorable how you jump like a little monkey into every talk of cable TV to defend your old fashioned archaic method of entertainment. It's 2012. Get over it, buddy. |
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 | said by jeffreydean1:I think it's adorable how you jump like a little monkey into every talk of cable TV to defend your old fashioned archaic method of entertainment. It's 2012. Get over it, buddy. I think its funny that peoples budgets are so stretched that saving $10 - $50 per month is a dealbreaker. Maybe they should have made better decisions with their finances BEFORE the economy crashed. |
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 | Wtf are you talking about. I cut the cable and saved $75 a month. Besides for many of us its not about the money. I could afford to subscribe cable,satellite, and everything in between but just because my disposable income is healthy doesn't mean I need to get ripped off. Bottom line is and I've said this many times before there is no way in hell for a working person to get value out of a TV subscription. Not with this business model. But you go ahead and keep paying and as more and more cut your cable rates will soon double to cover those losses. I guess I might be angry and defensive if I was like you and addicted to crap too. Because your wallet is going to get raided and the content is just going to get worse. |
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 | reply to The Truth Well, I'm glad someone around here has money to burn.
I don't think that people are living as close to the edge as you imply. Well, some certainly are, but not all. I think it's more of a cost vs. value issue. Most folks aren't saying that they really wish they could pay their cable bills, but they can't; they're saying that they can't justify paying the bills for what they're getting. There's a huge difference there. It's the difference between not going to an expensive restaurant because it's too expensive vs. not going because it's overpriced for what you get. |
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 vpokoPremium join:2003-07-03 Boston, MA | reply to The Truth said by The Truth:I think its funny that peoples budgets are so stretched that saving $10 - $50 per month is a dealbreaker. Maybe they should have made better decisions with their finances BEFORE the economy crashed. Yeah, they should have scrapped cable years ago, but better late than never. |
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 | reply to ITALIAN926 Yeah, a $150 cable package with HDDVR service / video on every TV in your home / wireless internet on multiple devices and unlimited nationwide home phone REALLY DOES SOUND EXPENSIVE at @ $5 per day for multiple people in an average household. For a family of 5 thats $1 per person for 24 hours of entertainment and service - wow what a back breaker. For something that you use everyday from the time you wake up until the time that you fall asleep tell me what a better value would be?
Ok, you cut corners and saved $10, $40 or $75 monthly - so what? Your not being ripped off, your just wanting todays technology for 1982 prices. How much in 1982 were your groceries? I'm sure they have not risen and are the same prices today. You wont stress about a single unlimited smartphone bill at $150 per month but the cable providers are the one's ripping you off? Give me a break and at least put some effort into your complaining. |
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 | reply to FLATLINE said by FLATLINE:Wtf are you talking about. I cut the cable and saved $75 a month. Besides for many of us its not about the money. I could afford to subscribe cable,satellite, and everything in between but just because my disposable income is healthy doesn't mean I need to get ripped off. Bottom line is and I've said this many times before there is no way in hell for a working person to get value out of a TV subscription. Not with this business model. But you go ahead and keep paying and as more and more cut your cable rates will soon double to cover those losses. I guess I might be angry and defensive if I was like you and addicted to crap too. Because your wallet is going to get raided and the content is just going to get worse. Well genius, won't you write up a business plan so we can all read it and be wowed. The problem with you is you spend all this time tying yourself up to save $75 and then go out and try to piece it all back together with OTA, Netflix, Roku's .... to get back what you had to start out with. Yeah, you showed them! Sorry, my time each month is worth more than a few dollars per week trying to prove an idiotic point. If you were getting "ripped off" so bad, tell me what's a fair price to pay for everything? You must have a magic number thats makes the whole world at ease? No you don't, you just like to point fingers and claim being the victim. |
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 | reply to ArrayList Its 100% misleading. If you thinking a customer going from cable/satellite to TelcoTV is "cutting the cord" I suggest you go back to facebook and hang out there. |
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·Callcentric
| reply to ITALIAN926 Watching TV on someone else's schedule (Broadcast television) is dying and that is the reality. People might be signing up to FIOS or U-Verse, but that is mainly due to cheap introductory deals.
Once those are over and their rates rise above that of even legacy cable, the TV component will be the first to go. Most love their higher data speeds and if they are going to chose, will not part with this. |
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·Verizon FiOS
| The promo's have been ending yearly for the last 6 years, the telcos net adds are still pretty significant. FiOS has 4,473,000 TV customers and 5,144,000 Internet, and its not due to your reasoning, its due to their FiOS areas without TV franchise agreements. Nice try though. You get a C for effort. |
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·Callcentric
2 edits | reply to The Truth
Re: Ridiculous $1,800 a year is a better way to look at it and to me its definitely not worth it, which has nothing to do with saving money alone. Crap like Bravo, TLC, and now even History and Discovery are not worth it anymore. Let alone the huge $$$ and every increasing fees being paid to the likes of ESPN.
I use my money in areas I value and I am not interested in funding overpaid athletes move balls around and certainly not towards those dimwitted housewives or Jersey idiocy. |
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·Callcentric
1 edit | reply to The Truth Actually, what he is doing is watching the shows he wants to watch. Personally, I just use Netflix and apple TV and am able to purchase the shows I want to watch.
It's not about the cash, it's about not be forced to subsidize the rubbish on cable. I cannot justify paying more than $20 for the crap on our cable services.
Moreover, I despise the fact that these monopolistic cable companies are doing everything they can to hamper competition, particularly IPTV and a la carte services.
Only a complete tool would cheer funding an industry that is ranked dead last for customer service. Who else but a monopoly is able to get away with billing me incorrectly for 5 months for example. |
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·Callcentric
| reply to ITALIAN926 said by ITALIAN926:The promo's have been ending yearly for the last 6 years, the telcos net adds are still pretty significant. FiOS has 4,473,000 TV customers and 5,144,000 Internet, and its not due to your reasoning, its due to their FiOS areas without TV franchise agreements. Nice try though. You get a C for effort. Indeed, nice try. Most of these services are bundled and trying to get broadband without the TV component increases the price dramatically. Sometimes, standalone broadband even means lower internet speeds too.
For example, it's cheaper for me to get cable and a basic service than standalone broadband. |
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·Verizon FiOS
2 edits | You cant make attempt to make an opinionated fact, like quote: Watching TV on someone else's schedule (Broadcast television) is dying and that is the reality. People might be signing up to FIOS or U-Verse, but that is mainly due to cheap introductory deals.
Once those are over and their rates rise above that of even legacy cable, the TV component will be the first to go. Most love their higher data speeds and if they are going to chose, will not part with this.
I explain how youre wrong, and you rationalize against your own statement?
The truth of the matter is that "cord cutting" is completely exaggerated, and almost hyped up to be this cool thing to do to save money. I do not know one person in my life who has "cut the cord". I have a huge family, and a lot of friends and co-workers. Of course, according to this ridiculous article, almost half the people I know "cut the cord" by switching to FiOS. When the few of you that has made a sacrifice, and have really "cut the cord" , it gives you the illusion that everyone else is doing it as well, especially, when you read about it here ! lmao. Just because you are doing it, everyone is?
Now that I made that statement, the entire board will jump in and say how they "cut the cord", how everyone they know is doing it, bla bla bla . Funny how there is still over 100 MILLION pay TV subscribers in this country though. Lets decrease that number even by the ridiculous number of 400,000 , its gonna be a long, long, time before you replace this " outdated , "old fashioned archaic method of entertainment". lol.
Technicially speaking, someone moving to Satellite is more "cutting the cord" than FiOS/Uverse. Are these people kidding me? |
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