 vpokoPremium
join:2003-07-03
Boston, MA | reply to flycuban
Re: Why? It's what customers want, of course. |
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 tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3
 ·Comcast
| It's what SOME* customers want the other 95%++ won't be effected.
*They tried a soft cap and warnings and cutting people off and time after time heard "I'd pay more for a higher tier" so they offered business class, but some continued to skirt along the edge as long as they could get away with it.
AND here it is
"Use more, pay more!"
So easy a caveman(data hog) can understand it. |
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| Right.... so where is the price cut for those that dont use nearly that much as 300GB? |
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so rediculous
i love the old system
they never enforced it in my area |
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tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3 Reviews:
·Comcast
1 edit | reply to Skippy25
said by Skippy25:Right.... so where is the price cut for those that dont use nearly that much as 300GB?
Could happen any day.
Say a flat $0.25 per GB would be great for me.
However changing to postpaid billing for everyone has a lot of problem so ComCast has choosen to use their existing 250GB as a base tier. and then they threw in a bonus of 50GB, so anyone not exceeding the limit before, will never exceed it...unless their behavior changes.
See this is about behavior modification.
Those that over use will have to pay and that will make most (of thos VERY few) either accept it as part of the cost of their vital "work"* usage, trim usage to match the cap, or find another provider. |
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tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3 Reviews:
·Comcast
| reply to JigglyWiggly
said by JigglyWiggly:so rediculous
i love the old system
they never enforced it in my area
And YOUR heavy usage is one of the reasons for the change.
Your neighbors are either very happy or they are approaching with burning torches. |
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I switched to business class. Only thing I miss is the occasional speed upgrades. |
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I would be willing to bet his neighbors never noticed a single slow down or "saturation" on the entire node.
His heavy usage had absolutely nothing to do with it. It is their foresight into the future and trying to limit competing video that caused it. You shilling otherwise is just silliness. |
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tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3 Reviews:
·Comcast
| said by Skippy25:You shilling otherwise is just silliness.
Whoops! Wrong again Skippy
Shill would imply I work for or otherwise receive compensation for promoting their products.
In fact, I'm just an enthusiastic customer, an admirer of sound business and network management, and a person that can think beyond the "free", "where's mine?" and "someone else should pay" petty greediness you advocate repeatedly.
Stand up, grow a pair and pay for costs you incur and Mom might let you out of the basement. |
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| omg, it's Ralph J. Roberts himself! Amazing that he still gets around on the intertubes, look at him go... |
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First, I would recommend you look up what a shill is before you continue to attempt to say you are not one. »www.dictionary.com should help you.
Second, so you are against the petty greediness of "someone else should pay" yet you are OK with it when it benefits you?
I guess by your statement then you would agree they should be regulated like a utility with a connection fee and all GB's billed at an appropriate amount determined by experts and not boardrooms. I mean that is probably the most accurate way to make sure none of us are riding the backs of others, not even the executives right? While we are at it, lets not allow any ISP to install/upgrade any lines without forcing that customer to pay the full price of such? Allowing that cost to be absorbed by many would only encourage leeching. |
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 BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to JigglyWiggly
said by JigglyWiggly:so rediculous
i love the old system
they never enforced it in my area
And unless you live in Nashville they still aren't enforcing it. Even there you have 3 months in which you can go over. |
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BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to tshirt
said by tshirt:said by Skippy25:Right.... so where is the price cut for those that dont use nearly that much as 300GB?
Could happen any day. Say a flat $0.25 per GB would be great for me. Never will happen. Many customers may never use 20 GB a month. Comcast isn't going to give them internet for $5 a month.
Besides even on utilities, with my gas company you will pay $7 month even if you use no gas what so ever. The amount you pay for unit of usage is added to that $7. Water company is the same. The lowest you bill will be if you have service $30 a month. Even if you went a way for a month and didn't use a drop of water. The difference between the water and gas is with the water you get to use X amount of gallons( or whatever unit they use ) before they start charging you more than the $30 and I said with the gas you get charged immediately.
So if Comcast did ever go to a pay per bit usage there still would some sort of base charge. Also the per bit charges would probably be higher on those that used less. But I doubt it happens because people like certainty in the bills. right now you know you internet bills will be X amount. You can plan for that. Not one month it this amount because you used 27 GB and next month it's that amount because you used 35 GB. |
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tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3 Reviews:
·Comcast
1 edit | reply to Skippy25
said by Skippy25:First, I would recommend you look up what a shill is before you continue to attempt to say you are not one. »www.dictionary.com should help you. Since your URL failed to actually link to the word shill, I must assume you also failed to read and understand the definition, so I offer 2 sources
»dictionary.reference.com/browse/···&ld=1087
1.
a person who poses as a customer in order to decoy others into participating, as at a gambling house, auction, confidence game, etc.
»en.wiktionary.org/wiki/shill
shill (plural shills)
1.A person paid to endorse a product favourably, while pretending to be impartial. [quotations ¥]
2.An accomplice at a confidence trick during an auction or gambling game. [quotations ¥]
I have no interest or benefit in you being a comcast customer or not.
said by Skippy25:Second, so you are against the petty greediness of "someone else should pay" yet you are OK with it when it benefits you? I was of course answering YOUR suggestion that the proposed tiers would be OVERCHARGING normal users.
At the $0.25 per GB flat rate at 250GB user would pay $62.50 the highest regular stand alone HSI price I have ever seen listed, but it seemed a reasonable comparison, The reason it would work well for me and millions of others is the most I have ever used is 159GB, so MY bill would only be $39.75.
However, that would REQUIRE those in overage catagories to pay many thousands of times the proposed fees to reach the same total revenue, a highly unlikely event.
The current base works for me and apparently is one model ComCast is choosing to explore.
said by Skippy25:I guess by your statement then you would agree they should be regulated like a utility with a connection fee and all GB's billed at an appropriate amount determined by experts and not boardrooms. I mean that is probably the most accurate way to make sure none of us are riding the backs of others, not even the executives right? While we are at it, lets not allow any ISP to install/upgrade any lines without forcing that customer to pay the full price of such? Allowing that cost to be absorbed by many would only encourage leeching.
The once again YOU guessed WRONG.
While at some point down the road (years away IMHO) broadband may reach utility status, it currently is a service provided by MOSTLY privately own companies over privately owned networks and in the case of cable Privately(via a public offer stock and corp. bonds) financed and built.
ComCast in particaular can set their price for HSI at what they believe is the market price. Consumers have the choice to purchase or not as they see fit. At times to entice new customers to join they offer promotional pricing, as they see fit.
So far the blend of regulated (Telephone, Secuirty, etc) negotiated agreements (Most cable started and is still under the control of a negotiated franchise agreement which often set a price for "lifeline service plus fees and services to be provide for public benefit * ) and the unregulated HSI products have returned a profit in the historical industry average of approx. 10%, fairly modest for a publicly held company.
* I would suggest if you want influance over the franchise terms at next renewal you become involved in the PUBLIC reneogoietion process. then you would get a chance to PROVE that their broadband services should be a REGULATED utility. |
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tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3 | reply to BF69
Re: Why? I totally agree. see below
Skippy is the one with limited reasoning skills or perhaps it's greedy self interest AGAIN. |
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Re: Why? My local water utility has an even worse policy. There is a minimum monthly fee assessed against the property even if the water service has been turned off. It is simply a hidden property tax. |
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