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kudos:7 | When contagion strikes, it's Honolulu you should avoidMIT researchers have analysed which airport hubs would be key to spreading a virulent disease, with some surprising results When the next outbreak of Sars or Swine flu hits, New York's John F Kennedy airport and Los Angeles's airports will likely be the key spreaders of disease, according to a new study. But while the influence of these super-hubs may not come as much of a surprise, the third most outbreak-friendly airport in the states is far smaller, and far less obvious – Honolulu International. In a paper published Monday in the journal PLoS One, a team of researchers from MIT outlined a new computer model that predicts how the 40 largest American airports may contribute to the diffusion of contagious disease within the first few days of a potential epidemic. They looked at which hubs may be key "early spreaders" because knowing where epidemics may begin is key to stemming an outbreak, Marta Gonzalez, professor in the department of civil and environmental engineering at MIT, and one of the contributors to the new model, told the Guardian. Factors other than sheer volume of travelers may contribute to the spread of disease. » www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-news···-lax-mit--
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kudos:7 | How a Virus Conquers the World, Animated
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kudos:4 | That narrator must have been on crystal meth. He was talking six miles a minute. It was very irritating. Plus, the images were extremely garish. I can't believe that was nominated for some web award. I couldn't finish watching it.
As for Honolulu International Airport, we are already aware of the role we might play (depending on multiple factors) in the spread of a deadly disease.
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The problem with the "Headline of Doom" is that it applies to only a first-generation view of a contagion... namely the airports into which it's first carried. The problem is that almost none of the folks passing through such places simply stay there... they're exposed, then they quickly move onto into "every Middlesex village and farm" throughout the land, probably long before the "experts" even realize a contagion is underway. Within four or five hours of their planes first landing in the top-listed hubs, the passengers will all have carried exposure into countless other places all over the country.
The reality is that, unless the contagion spreads slower than molasses, there's simply no way to contain it geographically in this modern hyper-travelled world. Apart from the few remaining genuine wilderness regions, there's no place to really hide any more... there are no more "natural barriers".
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kudos:7 | reply to Mele20
Hmm..so what is 'we' doing about the role and what is it ? |
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said by Blackbird:The problem with the "Headline of Doom" is that it applies to only a first-generation view of a contagion... namely the airports into which it's first carried. The problem is that almost none of the folks passing through such places simply stay there... they're exposed, then they quickly move onto into "every Middlesex village and farm" throughout the land, probably long before the "experts" even realize a contagion is underway. Within four or five hours of their planes first landing in the top-listed hubs, the passengers will all have carried exposure into countless other places all over the country.
The reality is that, unless the contagion spreads slower than molasses, there's simply no way to contain it geographically in this modern hyper-travelled world. Apart from the few remaining genuine wilderness regions, there's no place to really hide any more... there are no more "natural barriers".
How slow is molasses ?
»abcnews.go.com/Nightline/AvianFl···8&page=1
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| said by Name Game:said by Blackbird:...The reality is that, unless the contagion spreads slower than molasses, there's simply no way to contain it geographically in this modern hyper-travelled world. Apart from the few remaining genuine wilderness regions, there's no place to really hide any more... there are no more "natural barriers".
How slow is molasses ? » abcnews.go.com/Nightline/AvianFl···8&page=1 In the case of a sick person manifesting earliest symptoms, transmission can take less than 10 seconds with a good sneeze, spreading at 40-70 mph - but the recipient won't probably realize his exposure for 24 hours or so.
A good refrigerated bottle of heavy molasses can take a bit longer than 5 minutes to empty... a burst 58 foot tank can spread at 25-30 mph (So How Slow Is Molasses in January?).
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It'll all be the fault of Twelve Monkeys.
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35 mph.
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How slow is molasses ? As slow as we are to do anything pro-active to maintain a secure country! |
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When contagion strikes, it's Honolulu Airport you should avoid I'm pretty sure it's a good idea to avoid the epicenter no matter where it is - once it's know. Before it's known, it's just a matter of luck where you are at the time. Also, wouldn't the places with the highest known threat be best prepared, rather than others that aren't?
I'm just not seeing how making a statement to avoid a particular Airport, such as Honolulu International Airport, is going to help anyone. Interesting article, though Name Game
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Re: When contagion strikes, it's Honolulu you should avoid said by dave:35 mph.(Damn, I see Blackbird already got this one) Fascinating story and amazing that this disaster happened in the winter, not in the middle of the summer.
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Re: When contagion strikes, it's Honolulu Airport you should avo said by JALevinworth :I'm just not seeing how making a statement to avoid a particular Airport, such as Honolulu International Airport, is going to help anyone.
The study was funded by Kahului Airport.
Overview
motto:The only thing you'll catch at Kahului is a flight
Kahului Airport is located on the northern edge of the land bridge between Haleakala and the West Maui Mountain Range on the island of Maui.
The airport occupies 1,391 acres of land and is located three miles east of the town of Kahului.
Kahului is second in size only to Honolulu International Airport the largest & filthiest airport in the State of Hawaii
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| said by Snowy:said by JALevinworth :I'm just not seeing how making a statement to avoid a particular Airport, such as Honolulu International Airport, is going to help anyone.
The study was funded by Kahului Airport. Overviewmotto: The only thing you'll catch at Kahului is a flightKahului Airport is located on the northern edge of the land bridge between Haleakala and the West Maui Mountain Range on the island of Maui. The airport occupies 1,391 acres of land and is located three miles east of the town of Kahului. Kahului is second in size only to Honolulu International Airport the largest & filthiest airport in the State of Hawaii » hawaii.gov/ogg/airport-information Nice. Thanks for the info, Snowy.
Now this is the part where I want to say, Mahalo but feel like an ass that I'm doing it wrong. I mean it sincerely, though. Not just here but all your contributions. I enjoy them!
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kudos:6 | The IM function would work if only you'd...
Your understanding/useage of 'mahalo' is pono. |
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| said by Snowy:Your understanding/useage of 'mahalo' is pono.
Snowy, You knew I would look up pono. A fine teacher you are.
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Re: When contagion strikes, it's Honolulu you should avoid
No Big Deal... |
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Re: When contagion strikes, it's Honolulu Airport you should avo said by Snowy:The IM function would work if only you'd...
Your understanding/useage of 'mahalo' is pono.
And if you happen to use this Airport in your lifetime before they upgrade it..
»www.yelp.com/biz/honolulu-intern···honolulu
Feel free to take a page from the Bard of Avon to express your feelings. Snowy will translate.
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