 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
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Mount Airy, MD | Precedent If Google were to allow this, then everyone else would want to be able to do it as well. I can't blame Google for rejecting the idea.
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Salt Lake City, UT | said by pnh102:If Google were to allow this, then everyone else would want to be able to do it as well. I can't blame Google for rejecting the idea.
Looks like this could be a black mark against 'evil' Google's KC Fiber project. Not very good PR tactics...
Hell, even my 'socialist' muni FTTH ISP has a heart and offers free internet service and wifi to non-profits!  |
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said by pnh102:If Google were to allow this, then everyone else would want to be able to do it as well. I can't blame Google for rejecting the idea.
I agree. You'd wind up with a few paying customers who are maxing out their 1Gbps line. And for Google, no way to siphon data for advertising purposes.
What I find fascinating, is that Google believes that building a 1Gbps fiber network is inexpensive enough to make up for in advertising.
No wonder the incumbents are shitting their pants. Google is poised to pull back their curtain so to speak and expose the last mile lie.
The next 12-24 months are going to be interesting. |
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said by somms:said by pnh102:If Google were to allow this, then everyone else would want to be able to do it as well. I can't blame Google for rejecting the idea.
Looks like this could be a black mark against 'evil' Google's KC Fiber project. Not very good PR tactics... Hell, even my 'socialist' muni FTTH ISP has a heart and offers free internet service and wifi to non-profits! Your can write off donations to 503(c) Non-Profits, you can't to poor people. |
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Salt Lake City, UT | said by AnonFTW :said by somms:said by pnh102:If Google were to allow this, then everyone else would want to be able to do it as well. I can't blame Google for rejecting the idea.
Looks like this could be a black mark against 'evil' Google's KC Fiber project. Not very good PR tactics... Hell, even my 'socialist' muni FTTH ISP has a heart and offers free internet service and wifi to non-profits! Your can write off donations to 503(c) Non-Profits, you can't to poor people. Michael Liimatta, co-founder of local nonprofit Connecting for Good, said Google told the groups involved that the idea wasn’t in line with planned licensing agreements for the new product, Google Fiber.
Read more here: »www.kansascity.com/2012/06/28/36···link=cpy |
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kinda makes you wonder if google aint got somethin up their sleeve.. their advertising is where they make the most money I kinda wonder if the content people are gonna be looking at on googles servers would be posied with advertising more often the reg.., either way I would love to see advertising if that meant Fiber where im at  |
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There are many types of Non-Profits. Only a 503(c) can write expenses off.
They don't advertise themselves as a 503(c), but rather as "Connecting for Good is a registered Kansas not-for-profit corporation #4563276". |
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 marigoldsGainfully employed, finallyPremium,MVM
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kudos:2 | Any non-profit can write off expenses.
503(c) just defines which a subset of 501(c) corps for which donations to those corporations are deductible. many 501(c) statuses (such as some 501(c)(3) corps) do not require registering with the IRS for the donors to receive deductions. As long as this group has receipts under $5k, there is a good chance they fit under the 501(c)(3) filing exemptions.
Heck, Google can write off the expenses either way as an expense of business. And I suspect that 501(c) status is a hurdle the group could take if it was necessary to reach an agreement with Google.
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It should have been OK if it were business class. I can kind of understand how they don't want to erode their potential subscriber base though.
If it's only a residential service, then there's no resale, period. |
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somms
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Salt Lake City, UT | reply to marigolds
said by marigolds:Any non-profit can write off expenses.
503(c) just defines which a subset of 501(c) corps for which donations to those corporations are deductible. many 501(c) statuses (such as some 501(c)(3) corps) do not require registering with the IRS for the donors to receive deductions. As long as this group has receipts under $5k, there is a good chance they fit under the 501(c)(3) filing exemptions.
Heck, Google can write off the expenses either way as an expense of business. And I suspect that 501(c) status is a hurdle the group could take if it was necessary to reach an agreement with Google.
Thank you for clarifying this and including accurate info which seems to be missing from the partisan tone of these forums lately! 
Google has just missed the boat on getting the positive PR this time...  |
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No, it's not that cheap to build out fiber. It's expensive.
They aren't trying to recoup their costs on this and make a profit. There is a reason they chose to go small scale and not be a nationwide ISP. Because it is very expensive to overbuild.
If it were cheap, the incumbents would already be gone, because you'd have 5 or 6 fiber connections to your house, nationwide. |
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