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...how exactly is this considered government welfare? How was nationwide phone service provided? I know, let's conveniently ignore that fact too while we are at it.
I'm sorry that I don't subscribe to the belief that "companies are in business for the best of the consumer, they can do no wrong, and we should just deregulate every industry in sight, because public shame will keep companies accountable."
"We will evaluate these integrals rigorously if we can, and non-rigorously if we must".
---Victor Moll, invited talk, Tom Osler Fest (April 17, 2010)