atsak
join:2012-03-24
Oakville, ON | [DSL] Business 25/7 service TSI folks (Martin et al),
Has their been any decisions for the rates / availability of a TSI 25/7 service for business? I need to replace an old style ADSL line anytime after the next week or so and would rather standardize our offices on Teksavvy (it's a backup link).
I called a little over a week ago and the CRTC/Bell crap was out of the way, so I wondered if there's been any movement yet.
I know; impatient. |
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kovy
join:2009-03-26
kudos:8 | Why not just get a residential internet account ? |
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 GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:20 | reply to atsak
It's not guaranteed that Bell will install a residential dry loop at a business address. We managed to get one at our office, but there is a chance they could refuse.
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Developer: Tomato/MLPPP, Linux/MLPPP, etc »fixppp.org |
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kovy
join:2009-03-26
kudos:8 | said by Guspaz:It's not guaranteed that Bell will install a residential dry loop at a business address. We managed to get one at our office, but there is a chance they could refuse.
nothing to lose by trying lol. |
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Don't worry, it was promised to be coming Real Soon Now. |
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atsak
join:2012-03-24
Oakville, ON | reply to atsak
Can't be bothered with the hassle on Residential; it's a remote office and a pain to get to. Will just wait for business.
Can't be too long now. |
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kovy
join:2009-03-26
kudos:8 | reply to atsak
said by atsak:TSI folks (Martin et al),
Has their been any decisions for the rates / availability of a TSI 25/7 service for business? I need to replace an old style ADSL line anytime after the next week or so and would rather standardize our offices on Teksavvy (it's a backup link).
I called a little over a week ago and the CRTC/Bell crap was out of the way, so I wondered if there's been any movement yet.
I know; impatient.
Wholesale residentiel/business is pretty much the same thing... |
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GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:20 | reply to atsak
Yeah, there's no more hassle for resi than bus, they're identical services provided over identical infrastructure with identical SLAs (none) and identical levels of support. The only difference is the price.
Hell, as far as TekSavvy is concerned, we have a business account with them, even if it's a residential line.
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Developer: Tomato/MLPPP, Linux/MLPPP, etc »fixppp.org |
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said by kovy:Wholesale residentiel/business is pretty much the same thing...
Not true. Business DSL is not subject to the capacity charges depending on the arrangements the ISP has with Bell.
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kovy
join:2009-03-26
kudos:8 | said by HeadSpinning:said by kovy:Wholesale residentiel/business is pretty much the same thing...
Not true. Business DSL is not subject to the capacity charges depending on the arrangements the ISP has with Bell. So is unlimited Residential... or are you talking about something else? |
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GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:20 | He's saying business is not and residential is. But as I said, that's just a pricing difference; the underlying service is identical.
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Main difference, from what I've seen is ports unblocked. The standard SMTP, POP3, are limited to the ISP and that's it, unless on a business plan, everything is opened right up. Other than that, I know Shaw in the west (who I use and have a business package with) QoS their business over residential in case of saturation in a certain area. Also a better TOS in terms of outages, line issues, etc. The price is extremely reasonable as well, I pay $150/month for 100x10 - 2 static's and 1TB transfer. |
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kovy
join:2009-03-26
kudos:8 | said by rustydusty:Main difference, from what I've seen is ports unblocked. The standard SMTP, POP3, are limited to the ISP and that's it, unless on a business plan, everything is opened right up. Other than that, I know Shaw in the west (who I use and have a business package with) QoS their business over residential in case of saturation in a certain area. Also a better TOS in terms of outages, line issues, etc. The price is extremely reasonable as well, I pay $150/month for 100x10 - 2 static's and 1TB transfer.
This is wholesales business... not retail. |
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kovy
join:2009-03-26
kudos:8 | reply to Guspaz
said by Guspaz:He's saying business is not and residential is. But as I said, that's just a pricing difference; the underlying service is identical.
Yeah pretty much. |
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Which part would you be referring to? The TOS can be seen on the site, the quality I have experienced myself and the QoS higher seems to be fact as well. I own a condo, and live in a 8-plex building. I've become close with two of my neighbours, both of which are on Shaw and have been experiencing slow downs in the evening. I still get rock solid speeds, on both static's which are seperate routers. One being physical, other being a VM. Coincidence, that's up to you to decide on. |
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kovy
join:2009-03-26
kudos:8 | said by rustydusty:Which part would you be referring to? The TOS can be seen on the site, the quality I have experienced myself and the QoS higher seems to be fact as well. I own a condo, and live in a 8-plex building. I've become close with two of my neighbours, both of which are on Shaw and have been experiencing slow downs in the evening. I still get rock solid speeds, on both static's which are seperate routers. One being physical, other being a VM. Coincidence, that's up to you to decide on.
SHAW is a incumbent ISP, Teksavvy is a wholesaler. |
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Their business packages should still come with unblocked ports vs residential being blocked on the standard ports. |
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kovy
join:2009-03-26
kudos:8 | said by rustydusty:Their business packages should still come with unblocked ports vs residential being blocked on the standard ports.
I beleive teksavvy is all unblocked either package. |
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Something tells me that's a little off. Your ISP's have been blocking standard ports on residential circuits since early 2000's. Doesn't matter if you are a reseller, they still block ports. |
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kovy
join:2009-03-26
kudos:8 | said by rustydusty:Something tells me that's a little off. Your ISP's have been blocking standard ports on residential circuits since early 2000's. Doesn't matter if you are a reseller, they still block ports.
Someone would need to confirm.
From what I gathered...Due to abuse, TekSavvy does block outgoing port 25. They do not block any ports if you have a static IP add-on, and I believe they'll lift the block on a dynamic account if requested. |
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