| [Exede] where to put pole/point satellite hello there, I have exede satellite internet its currently installed on my roof but I am having roofing work done very shortly I asked a tech the last time he came to my home for a modem problem what i could do instead of paying them $75+ for a pole and an installation, so I went and bought what he suggested my question is where should I place the pole?, im assuming someplace that has a clear view of the southeastern sky, i called this morning and asked if they could send a tech out to tell me where to put the pole they want to charge me $95 which is insane considering im already paying $90 a month for service
(also knowing where to point my satellite after I install the pole would be a great help assuming that theyre going to charge me for that)  |
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 wm4bama
join:2012-05-10
Goodwater, AL | It's illegal for you to "point" a dish that transmits signals to a satellite...FCC rules...you could really cause serious problems for other nearby satellites.
A certified installer has a code that he puts into the modem that puts the modem into the "Point and Peak" mode, which causes the Tria on the dish to start emitting beeps that change as the dish is pointed at the correct satellite, then more beeping as the tech peaks the alignment in both azimuth and elevation..after the "Point and Peak" operation, the tech then puts the modem back into the provisioning mode, and when locked, he exits the modem menu and the system is again ready to use.
Exede's design makes it very difficult for a "do-it-yourself" operation, plus you could void your warranty, and worst of all, run afoul of the FCC.
If your installer allows you to set your own pole in the ground to save you some $$'s then take advantage of that...but pay a certified installer to point, peak and re-provision your system.
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well.
i run into this daily..... well sir i can configure your router for you for $30 dollars.... and the customer says...i'll do it my self. and about 1/2 way down the driveway they come running to my door... can you tell me how to set it up? no. you either pay me or figure it out your self.
as a Technician. Why would i tell you all the secrets of the trade???? i need to earn a living also |
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 grohgregDunno. Ask The Chief
join:2001-07-05
Dawson Springs, KY | reply to wm4bama
said by wm4bama:It's illegal for you to "point" a dish that transmits signals to a satellite...FCC rules...
Everything in that post is a collection of old wives tales, except the part about Point & Peak.
That said, a customer who has to ask such questions has no business trying it him/herself. Leave it to the professionals. You gotta pay to play.
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Ok but these still don't answer me on where to put the pole |
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| without being there and seeing ( a site survey ) i cannot tell you anything bud. |
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grohgregDunno. Ask The Chief
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Dawson Springs, KY | reply to tw1391
Too true. It's why they invented the thing called a site survey. I think you're gonna have to resign yourself to bitin' the bullet. Call for help - then pay when you get it
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said by tw1391 :should I place the pole?, im assuming someplace that has a clear view of the southeastern sky,
How about South Western SKY...just a pinch west from true South.
Hence, from true South, that western area should be clear of trees.
Do you know how to sink the pole...and make it vertical? |
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| yes I do know how to place the I did it for my directv, and to the person that said southwestern when it was installed I asked why he wasn't pointing it that way and he said that's the way their satellites point so I just let him do his thing |
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Viasat-1 is a geostationary satellite located at 115.08 degrees West longitude. Go to Satellite az-el Calculator, select a satellite located at that longitude, enter your latitude and longitude, click "Calculate" and it will display the direction of the satellite from your location.
The concrete pier should extend at least 1 foot below frost level, and Wildblue likes it to be at least 3 feet deep. The pole should extend at least 5 feet above ground. Drill a hole through the pipe a few inches from the bottom and insert a bolt that sticks out into the concrete to prevent the pole from spinning. Align the pole vertically. The pole must be embedded solidly into the pier and the pier must be embedded solidly into the ground. It must not wobble. Alignment is more critical for a dish used for Internet than for satellite TV because it transmits to the satellite.
Do not place the pole in a location where people would normally walk in front of it.
The coaxial cable will need to be attached to a grounding block which needs to be attached to your house's electrical ground. When choosing the location for the pole, give consideration to where the grounding block will connect to the electrical ground.
Pole specification: 2 inch inner diameter and 2 3/8 inch outer diameter schedule 40 galvanized steel pipe or equivalent. Usually 8 feet long. You need a Wildblue pole adapter for this. Wildblue also allows a pipe with a 2 inch outer diameter, but I do not remember the inner diameter. Poles for chain link fences are too weak.
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The satellite dish has to be grounded., and bonded to your house ground; I have no idea where your roof ground is in relation to your pole ground to be setup.
Spice has good info...
Get a pole in the ground, with concrete, and then come back here to this forum...having a vertical pole is critical. Exede's dish is a larger dish, so make sure vertical pole has a projection coming off of it in the concrete. See this tech sheet: »wildbluetools.com/content/FS/60/···0625.pdf
As they say: "Pole must have an Anti-Spin device securely attached at the bottom.
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PS: If you are moving away from your local area, a person has to have the "installer code" for the new location. Moving a dish in your local area will work OK, but at farther distances, one has to check their beam map an see if you are still located in it. |
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Bear in mind to ground your system you almost always have to run the wire by your electric meter. Rule of thumb if it will work at the electric meter put it there or close by, otherwise you must run the wire there anyway.
If its not level it only means a functional retard can't point it. Being level will save those with less experience a lot of time. |
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| said by A Tech:Bear in mind to ground your system you almost always have to run the wire by your electric meter. Didn't think Exede installers had Ditch Witches....bonded to house's electrical ground is good enough.
PS: In rural areas, its not uncommon to see an electric meter over there on a pole, not attached to house, at least in my REA's area. |
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grohgregDunno. Ask The Chief
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Dawson Springs, KY | said by DrStrangLov: In rural areas, its not uncommon to see an electric meter over there on a pole, not attached to house,
Location doesn't matter, as long as it represents theservice point common ground. The important thing is to make sure that the modem, the cable, and the TRIA all share an equal electrical potential. And one place that you can reliably find equal potential is at the structure's common ground point.
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