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NormanS
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reply to OSUGoose

Re: E-Mail "Contact List" Hack

Many ISPs used to refuse to talk to a client if the connection was not their IP address. This led to a problem for me when using a Pacific Bell dial-up connection: PacBell contracted with Level 3 for some of there dial-up POPs, but those IP addresses were not in the PacBell SMTP server client list, so I was treated as if I was not using my ISP connection!

Anyway it isn't clear if the OP's account was actually hacked, or if some spammer merely got their grimy mitts on an errant CC: list.
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Norman
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OSUGoose

join:2007-12-27
Columbus, OH
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Frankly I feel we need to go back to those days, with the add on of text verification. The server will hold the message, sending a message to the account asking the user to log in and verify they are trying to access their email from a non-ISP IP. Yea it may frustrate or break stuff for the non-techie, but maybe we will finally get a handle on account hijacking for spambots. That and we also need to make it harder to get hosting/rack space to send out spam too. As host winds seems to be a frequent offender.



NormanS
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join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
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·Pacific Bell - SBC

said by OSUGoose:

Frankly I feel we need to go back to those days, with the add on of text verification. The server will hold the message, sending a message to the account asking the user to log in and verify they are trying to access their email from a non-ISP IP. Yea it may frustrate or break stuff for the non-techie, but maybe we will finally get a handle on account hijacking for spambots. That and we also need to make it harder to get hosting/rack space to send out spam too. As host winds seems to be a frequent offender.

So 'a@msn.com' attempts to send an email from some East Indian IP address. The server sends some kind of verification to 'a@msn.com'? And just who is going to get it? I am thinking the spammer who stole that account will get it, and verify it.

While we are discussing this, 'a@msn.com' gets Internet connectivity through "at&t Yahoo! HSI. But their email would go out through MSN servers: Now what?
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Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
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OSUGoose

join:2007-12-27
Columbus, OH

My overall point is the more hassle you make it for the scammer/spammer the less likely they will try, they will just move on to their next easy mark.



NormanS
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
kudos:9
Reviews:
·SONIC.NET
·Pacific Bell - SBC

said by OSUGoose:

My overall point is the more hassle you make it for the scammer/spammer the less likely they will try, they will just move on to their next easy mark.

You are looking for FUSSP?

»www.dmuth.org/fussp.html
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Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

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