 John GaltForward, MarchPremium
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Re: Code enforcement demolishes House next door Might be a good opportunity for a community garden...
There are public spaces on both sides, with a public access walkway. It is low-impact and looks better than 'weeds'. If the lot sells, then there is no big deal bulldozing the garden and building.
We have that here on many lots that are undeveloped...property owners here are pretty good about going along with that.
Just a thought...
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| said by John Galt:Might be a good opportunity for a community garden...
There are public spaces on both sides, with a public access walkway. It is low-impact and looks better than 'weeds'. If the lot sells, then there is no big deal bulldozing the garden and building.
It's funny that you bring that up. I just saw a story about a woman that is suing Tulsa over the removal of her garden by code enforcement.
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Saint Louis, MO | said by magnetron:said by John Galt:Might be a good opportunity for a community garden...
There are public spaces on both sides, with a public access walkway. It is low-impact and looks better than 'weeds'. If the lot sells, then there is no big deal bulldozing the garden and building.
It's funny that you bring that up. I just saw a story about a woman that is suing Tulsa over the removal of her garden by code enforcement. » www.newson6.com/story/18802728/w···e-garden That is a really odd story.
I don't understand why there would be an ordinance against plants over 12 inches tall. I can understand that people don't want overgrown poorly maintained yards, but based on the "before and after" pictures in that article, the "after" looks WAY worse.
It looks like they used highly unmotivated teenagers to do the gardening...
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John GaltForward, MarchPremium
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said by magnetron:It's funny that you bring that up. I just saw a story about a woman that is suing Tulsa over the removal of her garden by code enforcement. Looks like there might be issues...! quote:
Grass type ground cover cannot be over 12 inches in height, except healthy trees, shrubs, or produce for human consumption grown in a tended and cultivated garden.
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 KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
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There's more to that story. The so called "garden" was the front yard, and it really was a mess and wasn't really being cultivated or an actual garden.
The person had had previous run-ins with Code enforcement and IMHO tried to use a loophole to set up this situation with intents to embarrass and sue. Maybe not, but either way I understand why her neighbors complained. She sure milked it too, claiming it was her method of supporting herself, she was unemployed and they took her livelihood, yadda, yadda, yadda.
From pictures I saw, there was no evidence of any actual cultivation or harvesting of said plants, it just looked like an overrun jungle.
The picture here (taken from the video) shows what it currently looks like, after abatement. It needs more abatement. They may be edible, but it's hardly a cultivated garden... IMHO
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John GaltForward, MarchPremium
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kudos:5 | said by KrK:There's more to that story. The so called "garden" was the front yard, and it really was a mess and wasn't really being cultivated or an actual garden. You really don't know much about this, do you?
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Tulsa, OK | It doesn't fit the definition of the cultivated garden for produce in the ordinance, no. I realize there are other types of gardens.... and they have to meet standards. I can't let my front yard be a jungle and then escape code enforcement by claiming it's a garden.... nope.
People have tried claiming trash in their yards was art and decorations, too.
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John GaltForward, MarchPremium
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kudos:5 | said by KrK:It doesn't fit the definition of the cultivated garden for produce in the ordinance, no. I realize there are other types of gardens.... and they have to meet standards. I can't let my front yard be a jungle and then escape code enforcement by claiming it's a garden.... nope.
If the city ordinances do not specifically address the issue, they have no basis for action.
Perhaps you're for arbitrary and capricious enforcement, eh? 
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KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
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Tulsa, OK | said by John Galt:If the city ordinances do not specifically address the issue, they have no basis for action. Well, I think the part you quoted:
"produce for human consumption grown in a tended and cultivated garden."
Is quite relevant.
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