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NuclearXP

join:2012-04-12
Trenton, MI

QoS with Ultra TV

This Ultra modem/router/DVR is proving to be the bane of my existance......

Anyway - I have a router with dd-wrt configured as an AP hooked up from it's LAN port to one in the Ultra TV gateways. That is working fine and dandy. I was hoping to eventually get QoS setup so the other members of my household wouldn't lock up my bandwidth. Or uploading 900 pictures to flickr while I was in the middle of a video game.

With that being said, I am fairly certain, and through quick testing, that QoS on dd-wrt (or any router running as an AP) hooked up LAN-LAN won't work. Since the Arris/WOW implementation is pretty much half-ass as is, does anyone know if there is a proper way to implement QoS on my AP?


mix

join:2002-03-19
Utica, MI

As far as I know, the only working QoS implementation that is semi easy to configure is on Gargoyle, which is a gui web interface for OpenWRT. »www.gargoylerouter.com

If you already have dd-wrt on your router, and your router is supported by OpenWRT Backfire, you should be able to flash the firmware directly.


NuclearXP

join:2012-04-12
Trenton, MI

Mix - I'm not so much confused by the QoS setup... but I fear the functionality just isn't there. Is Gargoyle or OpenWRT's implementations different? DD-WRT's options are either WAN or WLAN-LAN, neither of which works well because WAN QoS goes out the window since I'm using mine as an AP. WLAN-LAN also won't work because that'll throttle my WLAN-WLAN connections, and also the LAN-LAN from the router to the Arris modem. The only thing I can think of that would work is to specifically assign a QoS policy on the connection from my wireless AP to the WOW router, thus keeping all my devices free to use up unlimited internal bandwidth but not bring down my internet connection.
Although, the most ideal case would obviously be to implement QoS right on the UltraTV gateway.



smunro622
Premium
join:2006-02-15
Madison Heights, MI

reply to NuclearXP
guys,

i would agree, the ability of this box is terrible. for as large as it is and the technology that is out there this is terrible.

the amount of features i gave up using my own router is terrible and the crappy pass thru that is offered is a joke as half of them are broken. I use a cloud based sip service with cisco wireless phones and it is a joke some days for service even on the 30/3 internet connection. I think WOW needs to go back to the drawing board on this and come up with a better gateway heck the uverse is better... yes i k now it is different technology but its 2012. I would be even willing to pay for a upgraded business prosumer version if it did what i wanted it to do.



mix

join:2002-03-19
Utica, MI

reply to NuclearXP
It would work, but only if you use are willing to use your router in a double nat type situation. Sorry, I guess I was assuming you already were doing double nat, but apparently you are using the router as a wireless access point only (which would normally be a good thing).

Something like pfSense would probably work, but you can't run that on a consumer router.

I don't have ultra tv, so I am assuming the gateway has no QoS implementation whatsoever. Is that assumption correct?


NuclearXP

join:2012-04-12
Trenton, MI

mix - you're 100% correct on all fronts. i'm running it in AP mode specifically to keep everything talking to each other nicely (file sharing) and also to keep xbox live gaming smooth (xbox live HATES NAT).

the ultra tv box has no QoS features whatsoever.


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