| Greed!!! Two reasons why users shifting away from Contracts to Prepaid plan
1. Bad economy
2. Greedy CEO and executives. Switching unlimited data plan to Everything Plan.
As you already know, CEO and executives will raise rate on Prepaid plan when more users switch to this plan. We are the looser no matter what |
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 BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | said by ABC87243 :As you already know, CEO and executives will raise rate on Prepaid plan when more users switch to this plan. We are the looser no matter what. While I'm sure that was a typo it does describe what our rectums will be once these cell companies get done with us. |
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I switched because it made a lot of sense and freed me up from contracts. I have both pageplus and straightalk .
I save about $431 over the equivalent 24 month AT&T service. More importantly, I am able to purchase a new iPhone every single year and not be in a contract.
If I did not purchase a new phone every year, I'd save about $1K over 24 months. |
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BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | said by Telco:I switched because it made a lot of sense and freed me up from contracts. I have both pageplus and straightalk .
I save about $431 over the equivalent 24 month AT&T service. More importantly, I am able to purchase a new iPhone every single year and not be in a contract.
If I did not purchase a new phone every year, I'd save about $1K over 24 months.
The problem with Straighttalk and others is they have limited phones. Heck I've got to drive 20 miles to get a Straighttalk phone that will actually work on Verizon's network because all our Wal-Mart will carry is phones that work on at&t and at&t only offers EDGE in my area which makes the unlimited data pretty useless.
And they have ONE phone. Overall it's bit better than my LG Ally I have( mostly ) but it's also $179. I can upgrade with Verizon in 2 weeks and get a Droid Bionic which is a 4G phone for $30 which includes the upgrade fee. So that's $149 more plus tax which brings it to $163 difference. So I'm not sure where the savings are. |
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amungusPremium
join:2004-11-26
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| I find this part of their service (and other prepaid) very curious - how do they decide who gets what type of service??
CDMA has FAR better coverage here, but how would I know what ST uses here without checking each phone etc?
Device compatibility is a huge mess.
CDMA phones should work with any compatible carrier - there's no reason Verizon, Sprint, U.S. Cellular can't all "get along" - they already do. GSM is obviously a little different - plop a SIM card in, and you're good. |
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just get a straight talk sim and a AT&T or Tmobile phone and your set. |
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 Frankis chillingPremium
join:2000-11-03
somewhere | reply to BF69
said by BF69:said by Telco:I switched because it made a lot of sense and freed me up from contracts. I have both pageplus and straightalk .
I save about $431 over the equivalent 24 month AT&T service. More importantly, I am able to purchase a new iPhone every single year and not be in a contract.
If I did not purchase a new phone every year, I'd save about $1K over 24 months.
The problem with Straighttalk and others is they have limited phones. Heck I've got to drive 20 miles to get a Straighttalk phone that will actually work on Verizon's network because all our Wal-Mart will carry is phones that work on at&t and at&t only offers EDGE in my area which makes the unlimited data pretty useless. And they have ONE phone. Overall it's bit better than my LG Ally I have( mostly ) but it's also $179. I can upgrade with Verizon in 2 weeks and get a Droid Bionic which is a 4G phone for $30 which includes the upgrade fee. So that's $149 more plus tax which brings it to $163 difference. So I'm not sure where the savings are. two things
1) you can order the phone from thier website and they'll ship it to you.
2) are you factoring in what you will be saving per month into figuring out where the savings are?
for example, you might be paying more for the phone now but in the long run after two years of saving like $20-$30 a month doesnt it work out in your favor? |
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BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to amungus
said by amungus:I find this part of their service (and other prepaid) very curious - how do they decide who gets what type of service??
CDMA has FAR better coverage here, but how would I know what ST uses here without checking each phone etc?
Device compatibility is a huge mess.
CDMA phones should work with any compatible carrier - there's no reason Verizon, Sprint, U.S. Cellular can't all "get along" - they already do. GSM is obviously a little different - plop a SIM card in, and you're good.
Verizon and Sprint use difference frequencies.
If you look at the name for most basic phones they will end in a -G or -C. The G stand for GSM and the C stands for CDMA. As to which CDMA is uses then you have to delve in a bit deeper.
On the smartphones I know they work on Verizon because they have this underneath the phone description
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BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to jchambers28
said by jchambers28:just get a straight talk sim and a AT&T or Tmobile phone and your set.
T-Mobile service does not exist in my area and at&t offers only EDGE. So what would be the point? |
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| U said straight talk offers a limited amount of phones. I was letting you know about their sim card offering that this in no longer the case. In your area it would be pointless. |
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BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to Frank
said by Frank:two things
1) you can order the phone from thier website and they'll ship it to you. I know that but I think it's so stupid that the walmart 2 miles from me only offers at&t straight talk phones and at&t doesn't even have 3G here let alone 4G. What good is unlimited data on EDGE?
2) are you factoring in what you will be saving per month into figuring out where the savings are?
for example, you might be paying more for the phone now but in the long run after two years of saving like $20-$30 a month doesnt it work out in your favor?
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BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to jchambers28
said by jchambers28:U said straight talk offers a limited amount of phones. I was letting you know about their sim card offering that this in no longer the case. In your area it would be pointless.
I'm know about their sim card thing. Net10 has a bring your phone thing too for GSM phones. If either offered the same thing for CDMA phones I'd might think about switching to them. No reason why they couldn't offer a program on a CDMA phone that is out of contract. |
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Point one is invalid.
If the economy was bad we would see more people flock towards post-paid plans because the cost of paying a phone up front is too steep for those who have cash in the bank.
Point 2 is valid but not quite.
Yes CEO and executives are greedy bastards morally. They own the network and can charge as much as they see fit, so they are not greedy bastards economically. So therefore we are upset morally but in the real world all that matters is gains and losses and so it's business as usual and hence therefore we cannot be mad because it's capitalism....without morals. |
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said by BF69:I'm know about their sim card thing. Net10 has a bring your phone thing too for GSM phones. If either offered the same thing for CDMA phones I'd might think about switching to them. No reason why they couldn't offer a program on a CDMA phone that is out of contract.
But, they do. You just have to go in and activate it on their network if you have an old one laying around... |
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Both TRACFONE and NET10 (and the lifeline partner Safelink Wireless) resell/reuse T-Mobile GSM in this area - and coverage is a definite issue; I have *dead spots* within my own house compared to CDMA (VZW) and W-CDMA (Sprint). It's not a *phone* issue (my current phone is a SAMSUNG *candybar* GSM phone - similar in features to the NOKIA *Shorty* that is still offered by Virgin Mobile USA's prepaid plan); however, it is likely that T-M's non-prepaid/non-reseller phones are *not* GSM-only. I'm hoping to find a T-M phone that someone wants to get rid of (since my Safelink SIM card would indeed fit) so I can do a straight handset switch and compare phones heads-up. |
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join:2003-02-06
Onion, NJ
kudos:1 | reply to michieru
said by michieru:So therefore we are upset morally but in the real world all that matters is gains and losses and so it's business as usual and hence therefore we cannot be mad because it's capitalism....without morals.
capitalism only works in a free market. The cellphone market is not open.
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 Simba7I Void Warranties
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Billings, MT | reply to BF69
said by BF69:The problem with Straighttalk and others is they have limited phones. Heck I've got to drive 20 miles to get a Straighttalk phone that will actually work on Verizon's network because all our Wal-Mart will carry is phones that work on at&t and at&t only offers EDGE in my area which makes the unlimited data pretty useless. I grabbed a ST SIM for my Samsung Captivate (running CM9) and it runs great here. I'm seriously thinking of *NOT* renewing my contract with VZ.
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Simba7I Void Warranties
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Billings, MT | reply to Chubbysumo
How? I'd love to get my Droid 2 Global (or even a D4) onto StraightTalk and have both GSM and CDMA radios work. |
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Yes they do use different frequencies but they do have roaming agreements and the ability to roam on the other carrier if need be especially in Sprint's case. The phone should work on the other carrier because of that fact and the reason why carriers won't allow it is that they want you to buy a new phone with them. Mo' money mo' money...
Case in point, I was with Sprint and have a EVO 3D. Took the EVO 3D to Cricket and they flashed it to their network. It works just fine: 3G, MMS, SMS, so on. Matter of fact, the phone works better than when I was with Sprint! It doesn't randomly reboot or crash anymore and the battery life is worlds better. The only thing that doesn't work is WiMax, which is to be expected.
I get great coverage for my area with Cricket and the 3G speeds have been great, sometimes 2Mbps+. At $55/month for unlimited talk, text, and data, you can't beat it. We have saved ourselves hundreds of dollars a year just going prepaid. Plus it feels good not being tied down to a 2yr. contract with exorbitant ETF's!! |
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Then what would you call what we have now? Also define open. |
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